The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

[fishonjazz]

Agreed. I actually think this is the main message of the media backlash: That Trump was having what should have been a side conversation with Bill Bryan on camera in front of the entire country, and certain elements of his constituency don't have the discernment to know the difference between that and literal advice. Whether he lacks the awareness that his words have that kind of influence is arguable; what is not is that he was doing it solely because he thought it made him look smart and/or thoughtful in front of his audience. Inevitably, some of the media response is overblown, and now, unfortunately, we're seeing an attempt to deflect by focusing on the media's critical reporting of his comments, and to re-frame it as overblown in its entirety.

This. Great post

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[fishonjazz]

Your President is a waffling buffoon. But ffs anyone who listened to that and goes injects themselves with detergent has probably forfeited their right to blame somebody else lol Natural selection is a bitch.

Its hard to comprehend how there is so much stupid of all types in one single country.

Ya I don't think anyone has been saying that you are smart to do stupid things trump says.
I think we are all in agreement that you are an idiot if you inject disinfectant

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[silesian]

Trump could be used as the scapegoat for the pandemic/economy and they’d have a realistic chance to retain the White House and senate. Not to mention, finally be able to come Up with better responses to this pandemic and ensuing economic depression. Instead, trump is probably going to cost them both... while also prolonging this pandemic and awful economy.

Trump is the greatest gift the liberals could ever wish for. He has exposed the Republican Party. Every voter will be thinking "can we trust a party that gave us a man so obviously amoral and incapable of running our country?

The libs will take control of Senate, House and POTUS. Thanks to IMPOTUS45's gullible backers.

Wait, was Trump a liberal "plant" all along? Was it his mission to weaken the country? (And here we thought it was just part of a Putin plan)

It will be interesting watching all the sycophants jump off the burning ship and explaining why they never really supported Trump.

PS: I'm old enough to remember an era where the story was "Yes, Nixon was corrupt, but so are all politicians, Nixon just got caught" What will the post-Trump narrative be so folks can save face with their children and grandchildren?

 

[fishonjazz]

Trump is the greatest gift the liberals could ever wish for. He has exposed the Republican Party. Every voter will be thinking "can we trust a party that gave us a man so obviously amoral and incapable of running our country?

The libs will take control of Senate, House and POTUS. Thanks to IMPOTUS45's gullible backers.

Wait, was Trump a liberal "plant" all along? Was it his mission to weaken the country? (And here we thought it was just part of a Putin plan)

It will be interesting watching all the sycophants jump off the burning ship and explaining why they never really supported Trump.

PS: I'm old enough to remember an era where the story was "Yes, Nixon was corrupt, but so are all politicians, Nixon just got caught" What will the post-Trump narrative be so folks can save face with their children and grandchildren?

I have a friend that had been living in Seattle for the last 15 years or so (grew up in SLC originally) and she recently moved back to Utah. She is single and told me it's harder to find someone to date in Utah because there are way more trump supporters here (she said there are basically none in Seattle) and I told her to just wait until he isn't president anymore. Suddenly she will find that there were never any Trump supporters here in Utah. They will all act like supporting Trump was something they never did.

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[The Thriller]

Trump is the greatest gift the liberals could ever wish for. He has exposed the Republican Party. Every voter will be thinking "can we trust a party that gave us a man so obviously amoral and incapable of running our country?

The libs will take control of Senate, House and POTUS. Thanks to IMPOTUS45's gullible backers.

Wait, was Trump a liberal "plant" all along? Was it his mission to weaken the country? (And here we thought it was just part of a Putin plan)

It will be interesting watching all the sycophants jump off the burning ship and explaining why they never really supported Trump.

PS: I'm old enough to remember an era where the story was "Yes, Nixon was corrupt, but so are all politicians, Nixon just got caught" What will the post-Trump narrative be so folks can save face with their children and grandchildren?

Well, let me just say, I really wish trump hadn’t happened. I think the damage he’s done to our country, both domestically and abroad, will take years (if ever) to repair.

But I will say this, I am grateful that he’s exposed the “pro life”, “family values”, free market capitalists, and the “fiscal hawks” for the frauds that we all knew they were. We couldn’t have done it without he and the GOP!

The pro life movement was never about actually Protecting life. It was always about being anti-choice and putting women in their place. It’s why they never proposed anything that would’ve helped the baby or the mother (health care, education, etc).

We all knew “family values” was code against LGBT community. It has nothing to do with actually the family or having any set of moral values. After excusing Donald’s extra curricular activities and his administration’s cruelty towards immigrant children, Republicans have utterly lost the moral high ground.

We all knew that cries of “socialism” were mere excuses to prevent poor and POC from receiving equitable health care, education, and economic aid. After years of Donald’s handouts and trade wars, the entire “free market capitalism” fallacy has been Nakedly exposed. Republicans have no problem with crony capitalism. They only claim to be pro free market (but are really pro crony capitalism) when Democrats propose a fairer capitalism towards poor people and POC.

Finally, the fiscal hawks that were so loud under Obama have become silent under trump. Whether we were blowing up the deficit for tax cuts, farm handouts, out of control defense spending, etc those who cried loudest under Obama have been deathly silent. As this pandemic has raged, we’ve seen the necessity for a much stronger social safety net. As minorities have become the greatest casualty in this pandemic, I think the unfairness of our society has become apparent.

The true casualty of this pandemic won’t be the dead but if we don’t make the necessary changes needed for a better society and government.

* We need stronger safety nets and universal health care.
* We need better sick leave and fairer pay.
* We need greatest investment in research and better collaboration between countries.
* We need universal vote by mail. Not only for working people but in the case of a pandemic.
* We need better more connected communities and civic engagement. We need capitalism to work for people, not just for the president's buddies or the Senate Majority Leader's political donors.
* We need better religious leaders. You cannot be a good Buddhist, Christian, Muslim, etc and support Trump. He’s the most immoral leader we’ve ever seen. If your religion can’t stand up now against such gross immorality, then it’s really not a religion worth standing up for.
* We need the media to do better. Just today I saw on MSNBC The Mooch giving us his 2 cents about the virus. Why? What expertise does he have? Fox News is responsible for countless deaths and suffering due to its disinformation campaign.
* Finally, we need an executive that’s trustworthy, empathetic, and competent. I don’t want government to act as a business. I want it to act as more of a protectorate for our most vulnerable.

 

[The Thriller]

Perfect example of what we’re talking about there @silesian. Forgiven but voters? What about the thousands dead? Doesn’t that matter? Any moral president would be horrified by the death and suffering. Not trump and “pro life” republicans. They’re worried about the politics of it. The death isn’t what scares them. It’s the prospect of losing power that scares them.

GTFO

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Which part of this didn't he actually say?

Turn on CNN or MSNBC. They are saying repeatedly that Trump instructed Americans to inject Lysol into their veins and to drink bleach. Can you find an actual example of Trump saying either thing? In the quote I heard he talked about how we were able to kill the virus with cleaners on surfaces and then wondered aloud whether there was a way to clean people internally. I agree that he should not be saying such things, especially in front of media that despises him so badly.

I heard a physician on TV this morning say they are currently considering the possibility of injecting low risk people with the virus in order to create potential immunity. Imagine if Trump said something like that. Haters would be losing their minds.

 

[fishonjazz]

Turn on CNN or MSNBC. They are saying repeatedly that Trump instructed Americans to inject Lysol into their veins and to drink bleach. Can you find an actual example of Trump saying either thing? In the quote I heard he talked about how we were able to kill the virus with cleaners on surfaces and then wondered aloud whether there was a way to clean people internally. I agree that he should not be saying such things, especially in front of a scared country looking for answers and information during a pandemic.
I heard a physician on TV this morning say they are currently considering the possibility of injecting low risk people with the virus in order to create potential immunity. Imagine if Trump said something like that. Haters would be losing their minds.

Fixed it for you.
Also regarding your last couple sentences. Agree to disagree.


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[Joe Bagadonuts]

I don’t think Joe was hung up on whether or not he used the word Lysol. What I’m reading is that he’s saying that Trump was having a side conversation on hypotheticals of how it could be treated, with sunlight in the body or a disinfectant, and that he did not say these were treatments nor that people should do this. They are most certainly stupid thoughts and hypotheticals, but as stupid as they are it’s still not him suggesting people drink [insert whatever you want] or inject [insert product of your choice].

Correct. While it is relevant that he didn't make the Lysol or bleach claims, it is even more important that he did not tell people to inject or drink anything. That doesn't matter at all to the media, though. They hate everything about him so in their minds misreporting his words is a public service.

Should Trump have been speculating? No. Did he say what they claim he did? No.

 

[silesian]

Did he say what they claim he did? No.

not sure who “they” are. The reporting I have seen has accurately represented what trump said. So “they” us not everyone. Is it 1% wacky jobs or 10% or 20%?

I’m not sure if you are referring to one wacky reporter or headlines across the board. I read more conservative stuff from wsj and the economist, etc, do I’m not saying people are not reporting the news irresponsibly. But if I had quotes from multiple sources then we can discuss the veracity if your claim.

 

[JazzGal]

Trump is the greatest gift the liberals could ever wish for. He has exposed the Republican Party. Every voter will be thinking "can we trust a party that gave us a man so obviously amoral and incapable of running our country?

The libs will take control of Senate, House and POTUS. Thanks to IMPOTUS45's gullible backers.

Wait, was Trump a liberal "plant" all along? Was it his mission to weaken the country? (And here we thought it was just part of a Putin plan)

It will be interesting watching all the sycophants jump off the burning ship and explaining why they never really supported Trump.

PS: I'm old enough to remember an era where the story was "Yes, Nixon was corrupt, but so are all politicians, Nixon just got caught" What will the post-Trump narrative be so folks can save face with their children and grandchildren?

My mother doesn't even try to save face about Nixon. She still doesn't think he did anything that bad. So of course she votes for Trump.

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[JazzGal]

Turn on CNN or MSNBC. They are saying repeatedly that Trump instructed Americans to inject Lysol into their veins and to drink bleach. Can you find an actual example of Trump saying either thing? In the quote I heard he talked about how we were able to kill the virus with cleaners on surfaces and then wondered aloud whether there was a way to clean people internally. I agree that he should not be saying such things, especially in front of media that despises him so badly.

I heard a physician on TV this morning say they are currently considering the possibility of injecting low risk people with the virus in order to create potential immunity. Imagine if Trump said something like that. Haters would be losing their minds.

If he was speculating about cleaning internally with disinfectant, what method besides drinking or injecting do you think he meant? It's a logical conclusion to what he said.

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[PJF]

But he's not Trump so we're good....

 

[Red]

To the Trump supporters who are mad at those of us who are making fun of his disinfectant comments, relax...we’re just being sarcastic.

 

[Avery]

But he's not Trump so we're good....

Much like happened with Kavanaugh, dredging up decades old accusations is wrong regardless of if you have a D or R by your name. Biden could have done it, but can you prove anything at this point? Considering Trump's history, it's a hard talking point for them to take the high road.

It's a sad state of affairs that in a country of 330 million people, these are the two candidates it comes down to, but here we are. I can't give Trump another four years when he's proved so rudderless.

 

[infection]

10,000th post. I’m now convinced we should impeach.

 

[silesian]

My mother doesn't even try to save face about Nixon. She still doesn't think he did anything that bad. So of course she votes for Trump.

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Nixon actually was a pretty effective politician and highly intelligent. Contrasting current day resident of the White House.

 

[silesian]

Much like happened with Kavanaugh, dredging up decades old accusations is wrong regardless of if you have a D or R by your name. Biden could have done it, but can you prove anything at this point? Considering Trump's history, it's a hard talking point for them to take the high road.

It's a sad state of affairs that in a country of 330 million people, these are the two candidates it comes down to, but here we are. I can't give Trump another four years when he's proved so rudderless.

I was actually in favor of not disqualifying cavanaugh based on her allegations. What bugged me was how he completely lost his crap.

 

[silesian]

They hate everything about him so in their minds misreporting his words is a public service.

I’m waiting to pick up my daughter and I’ve now read 50 articles from CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC and others in the liberal mainstream media.

I have not found one case saying that trump told people to inject disinfectant or otherwise lying about what he said.

with that I’m confident in calling BS on your claim of widespread lying about what trump said.

 

[silesian]

this is the closest I found, a quote from The Drudge Report provided in the New York Times.


Even some of the president’s reliable cheerleaders at Fox News have not tried to defend him. And recent visitors to the Drudge Report — the powerful conservative news aggregation site whose proprietor, Matt Drudge, has increasingly ridiculed Mr. Trump of late — were greeted with a doctored image of “Clorox Chewables.” “Trump Recommended,” the tagline read. “Don’t Die Maybe!”