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Joe Bagadonuts said:
Do you think that setting up a system where women in poverty are effectively marrying the government rather than their children's fathers is a positive thing? Do you feel good about the subsidies that have enabled so many men to abandon their families and so many children to grow up without a father figure? Do you think impoverished American neighborhoods are on the right track? Do you think more social programs are the key to improving the situation?

To me it seems like racial tensions are far higher today than when Obama took office. At the same joblessness in those same neighborhoods is way up (government stats try to hide this by removing people from unemployment roles for all sorts of reasons). I believe the government programs that you see as "trying to do the right thing" are actually doing the wrong thing. What these people need are jobs, not handouts.
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I'm not sure how you think cutting those programs is going to help those "families" stay together.

What jobs are the people to whom you're referring qualified to do?
 
Siro said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/obama-police-baton-rouge-225686



https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-bo...cally-condemn-rhetoric-toward-police-officers



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...sters-and-police-in-questions-about-shootings

Just because he has a nuanced approach that acknowledges the problem with police-commnity relations doesn't mean he's anti-police.
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I recognize and appreciate that Obama has said these and other positive things about law enforcement. Unfortunately his initial public reaction to police controversies involving black people is to always blame the police. Do you know of a situation involving police violence toward a black person where Obama has stepped in to reduce tensions? I can point to a number of them where he has made comments that increased tensions.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
I'm not sure how you think cutting those programs is going to help those "families" stay together.

What jobs are the people to whom you're referring qualified to do?
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I don't recall saying that existing programs should be cut.

It is imperative that we create jobs that these people can do. Manufacturing, construction, services, etc. Are you suggesting that you believe these people are not qualified to work and never will be?
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Do you think that setting up a system where women in poverty are effectively marrying the government rather than their children's fathers is a positive thing? Do you feel good about the subsidies that have enabled so many men to abandon their families and so many children to grow up without a father figure? Do you think impoverished American neighborhoods are on the right track? Do you think more social programs are the key to improving the situation?
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No. I think this mentality is so full of anecdotal, misguided ******** that it's not worth justifying with a response. But thanks for throwing it out there, Glenn Beck.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I recognize and appreciate that Obama has said these and other positive things about law enforcement. Unfortunately his initial public reaction to police controversies involving black people is to always blame the police. Do you know of a situation involving police violence toward a black person where Obama has stepped in to reduce tensions? I can point to a number of them where he has made comments that increased tensions.
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Sounds like you're just looking for what you want to see rather than his actual influence. Yeah, he says nice things, but all I care about is the stuff said at one particular point in time. Just as divisive, really.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Sounds like you're just looking for what you want to see rather than his actual influence. Yeah, he says nice things, but all I care about is the stuff said at one particular point in time. Just as divisive, really.
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You're right that I might be incorrectly attributing the cause. The bottom line is that what I wanted to see was better racial relations. What I wanted to see was better conditions for impoverished people (especially African Americans). The situation seems to be significantly worse today than it was eight years ago. Remember when Obama said this would be the moment where the healing began?
 
All they need to do is continue pushing the voter fraud lie until the only people allowed to vote are rich and white. If you can't get the majority to vote your way, then manipulate who gets to vote.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I recognize and appreciate that Obama has said these and other positive things about law enforcement. Unfortunately his initial public reaction to police controversies involving black people is to always blame the police. Do you know of a situation involving police violence toward a black person where Obama has stepped in to reduce tensions? I can point to a number of them where he has made comments that increased tensions.
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And what IF the police are to blame. Should Obama, or anyone else, avoid mentioning this? How do we make reforms if we cannot publicly acknowledge the problems?
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
All they need to do is continue pushing the voter fraud lie until the only people allowed to vote are rich and white. If you can't get the majority to vote your way, then manipulate who gets to vote.
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IMO, the Republican Party has, in effect, acted as an enemy of democracy in America. It truly is that simple, that fundamental. Knowing they needed to broaden their appeal to compete in an increasingly diverse America, they have opted instead to strip Democrat-leaning citizens of their right to the vote. And they're not fooling anyone, certainly not the judges who are throwing out their discriminatory voter ID laws....

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/08/20/nationally-new-laws-force-voters-navigate-maze-req/

Shame on the Republican operatives:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion...e-democracy/2akmTH1vBvXBAP5elkjAFO/story.html

What voter ID fraud??

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...le-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/
 
We live in the Age of Conspiracy Theories. No surprise that Republicans have bought into so many of these irrational ideas. Trump led the charge with Birtherism. Now Clinton is hiding dire health issues. If this doesn't swing the election Trump's way, maybe they can convince voters that Hillary is actually a shape shifting reptilian overlord from a galaxy far, far, away. After all, millions of Americans actually believe our government is controlled by said shape shifting reptilians, lol....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/giuliani-hillary-clinton-illness-videos-000000972.html
 
Red said:
IMO, the Republican Party has, in effect, acted as an enemy of democracy in America. It truly is that simple, that fundamental. Knowing they needed to broaden their appeal to compete in an increasingly diverse America, they have opted instead to strip Democrat-leaning citizens of their right to the vote. And they're not fooling anyone, certainly not the judges who are throwing out their discriminatory voter ID laws....

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/08/20/nationally-new-laws-force-voters-navigate-maze-req/

Shame on the Republican operatives:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion...e-democracy/2akmTH1vBvXBAP5elkjAFO/story.html

What voter ID fraud??

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...le-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/
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Wrong. Illegal aliens and people here on visas do not have a right to vote.
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
And what IF the police are to blame. Should Obama, or anyone else, avoid mentioning this? How do we make reforms if we cannot publicly acknowledge the problems?
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Problems need to be acknowledged and dealt with but the president ought to gather the facts first. Unless it is systemic it might be best to deal with these sorts of situations internally. Anytime the president comments on a specific situation a huge spotlight is going to be shone on it. Why hasn't he chosen to use that power to comment on gang violence which is taking many more lives and hurting the quality of life for law-abiding black people much more than cops ever have or would? I think that by helping to promote the notion that cops are systemically bad he has created an environment where it is much harder for a good cop to protect the people who need it most.
 
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