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The Utah Jazz have become a joke

Core4 said:
What does it matter whether Burks starts or not? He got 34 mins. tonight; RJ played 18.
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Lol. You're going with that logic? Really? Why don't you go check the game logs and tell me how many games Burks has played 34+ and Dick has played less than 20. We'll see how that argument holds up.
 
The only thing I see as really great about this season is that Corbin and the Jazz have not discussed a contract extension. And I see it as unlikely that he'll be back.
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I see some good things. Like Burks, Burke, Kanter and Favors have all shown signs. Hayward has shown that he is a good player but not a go to guy. That should hold his offers down and hopefully the Jazz can keep him at a reasonable rate.
 
doubledribble said:
Because the Jazz tries to copy the Spurs and Thunder, not the Sixers or Minnesota.
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Uh, no they aren't. The Spurs and OKC both tanked in special drafts, got lucky, then made the right choice.

The Jazz are "kind of" tanking. They aren't tanking. Philly is full on tanking. Philly is following the Spurs/OKC model. The Lakers and Boston are following the Spurs/OKC model (which tells you the luxury tax is working).

The Jazz are following the Sacramento/Minnesota model. Suck, but not suck enough, then try to make the playoffs every year. Heck, even Orlando knows how to do it right. Suck, get Shaq/Howard, make an NBA finals, lose player to the Lakers, suck again.
 
fishonjazz said:
Thats good of alec to not show it.

Earlier this year i heard on the radio that his agent had said publicly that alec wanted to start.
Maybe that has changed
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I think he probably decided to bitch about it would only make it worse ... and hope that Corbin would be gone next year.
 
fishonjazz said:
There are alot of teams that bring a scorer off the bench.

But how many teams bring thier BEST scorer off the bench?
Or for that matter, thier TWO BEST scorers off the bench?
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The Celtics did with Havlicek during his early years. But it's about the only example I can recall off the top.
 
Yell42 said:
Can someone please tell me why Burks is still coming off the bench 60 games into the season while we continue to start one of the worst players in the NBA who has been washed up for years and is obviously not pat of the future?


Theres no reason why the starting lineup shouldn't be

Favors
Kanter
Hayward
Burks
Burke

And they all should be playing 35+ minutes per game

This franchise is now a laughing stock
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In summary id like to say go and **** yourself Corbin, Lindsey and any other loser involved in this absolute mess
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If you haven't been able to figure this out by 60 games then you never will.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
I think he probably decided to bitch about it would only make it worse ... and hope that Corbin would be gone next year.
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Good point..... burks is already on a short leash..... acting disgruntled about not starting would only land him in the doghouse
 
Are there any stats that try to measure defense? If so, how do Kanter and Burks rank?
 
green said:
Are there any stats that try to measure defense? If so, how do Kanter and Burks rank?
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Im guessing not good.
However i think the jazz as a team are pretty horrible defensively. (Like 29th in the league iirc)
 
fishonjazz said:
Im guessing not good.
However i think the jazz as a team are pretty horrible defensively. (Like 29th in the league iirc)
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My point I was getting to is if Corbin thinks he can keep his job by fielding a great defensive team, then Kanter and Burks are high on his PT priority list.
 
green said:
My point I was getting to is if Corbin thinks he can keep his job by fielding a great defensive team, then Kanter and Burks are high on his PT priority list.
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I get ya.... but i think corbin prefers not to start kanter and burks no matter how much it would hurt or improve the the defense or offense.

He has jefferson and marvin to start

Also, jefferson is horrible on defense and marvin gets punished by big 4's quite often (even thaddeous young posted up and abused marvin in the first half last night)
 
Yell42 said:
Can someone please tell me why Burks is still coming off the bench 60 games into the season while we continue to start one of the worst players in the NBA who has been washed up for years and is obviously not pat of the future?


Theres no reason why the starting lineup shouldn't be

Favors
Kanter
Hayward
Burks
Burke

And they all should be playing 35+ minutes per game

This franchise is now a laughing stock
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In summary id like to say go and **** yourself Corbin, Lindsey and any other loser involved in this absolute mess
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Arent you the gai who once said Patty Mills > Deron Williams?
 
green said:
Uh, no they aren't. The Spurs and OKC both tanked in special drafts, got lucky, then made the right choice.

The Jazz are "kind of" tanking. They aren't tanking. Philly is full on tanking. Philly is following the Spurs/OKC model. The Lakers and Boston are following the Spurs/OKC model (which tells you the luxury tax is working).

The Jazz are following the Sacramento/Minnesota model. Suck, but not suck enough, then try to make the playoffs every year. Heck, even Orlando knows how to do it right. Suck, get Shaq/Howard, make an NBA finals, lose player to the Lakers, suck again.
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Jazz are effectively tied with Boston and Los Angeles. just saying.
 
Yell42 said:
oh man just look at starting small forward Richard Jefferson out there scoring all those points in all those minutes!

So excited about the future of this franchise!

Go Jazz!!
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Hahaha. Go Jefferson go! Get us that L!!
 
Stoked said:
Have faith Yell. The jazz are forging a future. To forge something you have to go thru the fire. This season is that fire. Next year Jefferson, Lucas and Biedrins (at least) will be gone. Burke, Burks, Hayward, Kanter, Favors and Gobert will be better. Neto should come over and the Jazz will land a very good pick and another late 1st round pick in a loaded draft. Plus I fully expect a while new coaching staff next year. Not to mention some financial room going into free agency.

If we are this same team next year then I'll join you in bein pissed. But for now stay the course my fellow Jazz fan.
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