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Stoked said:
I have liked all three seasons and how the shows atmosphere keeps changing. Season one was all about shock and just basic survival. Season 2 was more about ethics and morals in this new horrible world. Season 3 introduced inter group conflict and politics.

What will season 4 bring...
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Hopefully freight trains. A freight train group would kick some ***.
 
So at some point all these decomposing bodies could in no way shape or form move around under their own power. Mush cannot move bones around. How far out can this even be stretched? 1 or maybe even 2 year old zombies, well, maybe I guess if I am high enough, but 3 years plus no way in hell any of them are more than skeletons dipped in goo. Now the newly added ones I get, ok, but it sure seemed like the vast majority of the population got wipes out early on, so how many new ones can their possibly be? The number would be decreasing at an increasing rate.
 
LogGrad98 said:
So at some point all these decomposing bodies could in no way shape or form move around under their own power. Mush cannot move bones around. How far out can this even be stretched? 1 or maybe even 2 year old zombies, well, maybe I guess if I am high enough, but 3 years plus no way in hell any of them are more than skeletons dipped in goo. Now the newly added ones I get, ok, but it sure seemed like the vast majority of the population got wipes out early on, so how many new ones can their possibly be? The number would be decreasing at an increasing rate.
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You can't look at the show that way, you have to suspend belief at some point and realize that the show is based on a graphic novel. Playing the "reality card" is not conducive to a pleasurable viewing experience.
 
VINYLONE said:
You can't look at the show that way, you have to suspend belief at some point and realize that the show is based on a graphic novel. Playing the "reality card" is not conducive to a pleasurable viewing experience.
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Well suspended disbelief is a given in a show like this, but they have to give at least a passing nod to basic logic and biology and physics or it makes it very hard to continue to suspend disbelief. The logic part is what has killed under the dome, for example. The actions are just not logical and not consistent episode to episode, being a series of deus ex machina to move the plodding inane story along. There has to be some logic to it, or a system for the magic if you will.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Well suspended disbelief is a given in a show like this, but they have to give at least a passing nod to basic logic and biology and physics or it makes it very hard to continue to suspend disbelief. The logic part is what has killed under the dome, for example. The actions are just not logical and not consistent episode to episode, being a series of deus ex machina to move the plodding inane story along. There has to be some logic to it, or a system for the magic if you will.
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It's not going to happen. It's dumbed down for the lowest common denominator. There are so many things I noticed that were wrong in the 1st season...I just bear with it.
 
VINYLONE said:
It's not going to happen. It's dumbed down for the lowest common denominator. There are so many things I noticed that were wrong in the 1st season...I just bear with it.
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I hear ya, and I agree. But I hope they provide some insight as some of the LCD's who are among my acquaintances are even starting to question. I also think if they come up with some reason for them lasting so long it could add another dimension to the story-line.
 
I understand questioning survivors/humans, like some of their shooting ability or decisions or tactics or whatever but questioning zombies??? They are fictitious and are well within the established parameters for zombies, it's like questioning superhero movies or shows. Here how about this, whatever fictitious virus/infection that has caused this keeps their muscle fibers alive/functioning/not deteriorating just well enough to do it's one sole purpose, which is to feed and spreed/multiply itself (like any parasite or virus basic function is to do).
 
LogGrad98 said:
So at some point all these decomposing bodies could in no way shape or form move around under their own power. Mush cannot move bones around. How far out can this even be stretched? 1 or maybe even 2 year old zombies, well, maybe I guess if I am high enough, but 3 years plus no way in hell any of them are more than skeletons dipped in goo. Now the newly added ones I get, ok, but it sure seemed like the vast majority of the population got wipes out early on, so how many new ones can their possibly be? The number would be decreasing at an increasing rate.
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A season 4 briefer mentions that some of the zombies will be even more torn up and haggard than normal. Not emaciated. In an attempt to maintain a realistic feel.
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
I understand questioning survivors/humans, like some of their shooting ability or decisions or tactics or whatever but questioning zombies??? They are fictitious and are well within the established parameters for zombies, it's like questioning superhero movies or shows. Here how about this, whatever fictitious virus/infection that has caused this keeps their muscle fibers alive/functioning/not deteriorating just well enough to do it's one sole purpose, which is to feed and spreed/multiply itself (like any parasite or virus basic function is to do).
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Fiction does not excuse lapses in logic based on the rules of the world the story is set in. That is why there are so many websites set up for movie mistakes and such, since it tends to bug people when the rules of the world change or are not followed. The rule they established is that these people are dead, and that they have decomposed enough within the first season to be stinky beyond belief. They never said anything to make us change the way we think of normal biology, in fact they gave us enough medical information to reinforce the regular assumptions regarding biology, to wit that the bodies are dead and decomposing just like a body does when it is dead, but it is mobile during the decomposing process. They show body parts falling off and being pulled off to reinforce this as well. If anyone has dealt with a dead body in any way that wasn't preserved somehow the stinking rotting phase can last from as little as a month to about a year (again depending on conditions the body is exposed to) in which time it decays enough to be a skeleton more than a "body", and would lack enough connective tissue to approximate any kind of locomotion. These bodies are going on 3 years decaying, and mostly in optimal conditions to increase the rate of decay.

I am just saying that I would like to see them come up with a plausible solution as to why, so help maintain the gritty reality of the show so it doesn't devolve into a caricature of itself as we get into season 6 or 7 with the same dead bodies running around for 5 and 6 years which is just flat-out impossible. Like I said at least a passing nod to the logic of the world they have created, or a plausible reason to ignore that logic.
 
Stoked said:
A season 4 briefer mentions that some of the zombies will be even more torn up and haggard than normal. Not emaciated. In an attempt to maintain a realistic feel.
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Ok. Maybe they tie that into some new knowledge about the zombies. That would be cool. Or even if they acknowledge that all they have to do is find a place to wait out their total decomposition, which was my first thought getting into this and the comic. Just find a place where you can hole up until they all fall apart then you just have to deal with anyone who dies to make sure they don't turn.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Fiction does not excuse lapses in logic based on the rules of the world the story is set in. That is why there are so many websites set up for movie mistakes and such, since it tends to bug people when the rules of the world change or are not followed. The rule they established is that these people are dead, and that they have decomposed enough within the first season to be stinky beyond belief. They never said anything to make us change the way we think of normal biology, in fact they gave us enough medical information to reinforce the regular assumptions regarding biology, to wit that the bodies are dead and decomposing just like a body does when it is dead, but it is mobile during the decomposing process. They show body parts falling off and being pulled off to reinforce this as well. If anyone has dealt with a dead body in any way that wasn't preserved somehow the stinking rotting phase can last from as little as a month to about a year (again depending on conditions the body is exposed to) in which time it decays enough to be a skeleton more than a "body", and would lack enough connective tissue to approximate any kind of locomotion. These bodies are going on 3 years decaying, and mostly in optimal conditions to increase the rate of decay.

I am just saying that I would like to see them come up with a plausible solution as to why, so help maintain the gritty reality of the show so it doesn't devolve into a caricature of itself as we get into season 6 or 7 with the same dead bodies running around for 5 and 6 years which is just flat-out impossible. Like I said at least a passing nod to the logic of the world they have created, or a plausible reason to ignore that logic.
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You just have to let it slide. The premise that the army, navy, air force, and marines were wiped out but rick survived alone and in a coma is ridiculous, but more entertaining.
 
heyhey said:
You just have to let it slide. The premise that the army, navy, air force, and marines were wiped out but rick survived alone and in a coma is ridiculous, but more entertaining.
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It isn't ridiculous at all actually. It makes sense in that they were fighting, often probably hand to hand, an enemy that Rick didn't even see as he was out of it. I would expect the military to lose a lot of people to this thing. It is more unlikely that Rick survived his original wounds than that he survived the zombie apocolypse. We have seen plenty of times where zombies can't or won't open doors, so his being blocked was more than enough considering he wasn't making any noise.

It is ridiculous that there appears to be no military presence AT ALL. That is silly. Somewhere, even if it were on an aircraft carrier like World War Z, there would have to be larger groups left, as it took a while for people to turn, unlike World War Z. Of course, we are following a relatively small group of people in a limited geographic area, so they may just have not run across the military fortifications on some military base somewhere that is the center of the new united states government working to rebuild society.
 
So does "something got in", or whatever the catch phrase is, refer to swine flu? Two dead or dying pigs and then the kid. Did Darryl kill that kid when he licked his fingers and then shook his hand?

Non-spoiler: apparently the new kid with the glasses does the voice of Phineas. My wife was excited to inform me of that.
 
Kind of a ho hum way to start the season, but hopefully it will get more entertaining in the next episodes.
 
NCJazz said:
Kind of a ho hum way to start the season, but hopefully it will get more entertaining in the next episodes.
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Talking Dead says it gets gorier and more emotional tense very quickly. Sounded like it happens in the next two episodes.
 
NCJazz said:
Kind of a ho hum way to start the season, but hopefully it will get more entertaining in the next episodes.
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Actually, I thought it was a particularly strong episode. At some point these characters needed to fall into a daily routine of just living without any particular goal in mind. This episode was all about that. They had set up a rudimentary form of government (that "council" that was referred to a couple of times) and we got the sense that their lives in the prison had all become perfectly ordinary. I liked that. It struck me as more realistic than most of last season dealing with the Governor. Real life typically doesn't have arch-villains, and strong TV shows don't need them either.
 
Stoked said:
Talking Dead says it gets gorier and more emotional tense very quickly. Sounded like it happens in the next two episodes.
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I dont remember it getting gorier. If anything the next few episodes are less gory and more meta.
 
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