DutchJazzer
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naah bro,
merry Christmas. happy Hanuka, you have a great chrismukka
if thats offensive to you guess what i meant to offend u.
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naah bro,
merry Christmas. happy Hanuka, you have a great chrismukka
if thats offensive to you guess what i meant to offend u.
To be honest, there's no snow in more than half the world during the Christmas season so it does make some sense
I'm liking just about EVERYTHING in this thread.
Even Christmakkakuh
Even Christmakkakuh
Family joke:
Yukka Cup
(That's how my oldest said Santa Claus when she was a year old, her first Christmas)
Yukka Cup
(That's how my oldest said Santa Claus when she was a year old, her first Christmas)
by the way, I think it's called "globalization"
Hell, my wife is lucky if I buy for her. More often than not I wrap what she buys for herself and then I add a little something as a surprise. I literally do nothing else.
Yeah same. I was trying to be charitable to myself.
Oh, and merry Solstice!
That's pretty clever. But of course that's the reason for the *winter* season (if you live in the Northern Hemisphere), not the reason for the *Christmas* season.
Well, since Christmas is a ripoff of winter solstice celebrations that came much earlier than Christmas celebrations I'd say it is actually the reason why Christians celebrate Christmas when they do. Just like Easter is a ripoff of spring equinox celebrations.
I mean other than the birth of Jesus and his resurrection, of course.
Red
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But it might be the reason Christmas falls on Dec. 25th....
https://www.whychristmas.com/customs/25th.shtml
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carolinajazz
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What does "Rudolf's" red nose....and "Eggnog " have to do with the birth of Christ anyway?
It explains the reason WHEN we celebrate Christmas, sure. But obviously not why.
He said why it falls on 25th of December. Not why we celebrate, which is obviously to get drunk.
Red
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Eggnog I don't know, but Rudolph and Santa, I'll bet that has old roots. Obviously from far northern climes. Anyway, the Christmas tree was added as well....
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ch/thepastinthepresent/storybehind/whychristmastrees.html
The sun begins it's return northern journey on the Winter Solstice. Solstice means "stand-still". The sun rises and sets in the same spot for a few days. It stands still. But, then it begins it's return journey north, and all is well. The world was saved, because the sun would now return with it's Spring warmth, and bring with it the ability to grow food again. This is why the solstice was celebrated and viewed as so important by ancient people. The sun was reborn, the world would continue.
And what better way to symbolize everlasting life then with an evergreen tree?
Edit: well, here's a possible origin for Santa and Rudolph's red nose! I've seen this explanation offered before. Was Santa a psychedelic mushroom eating shaman?
https://www.livescience.com/42077-8-ways-mushrooms-explain-santa.html
Well, but really, Santa does not actually appear until 1822:
https://www.npr.org/2010/12/24/132260025/did-shrooms-send-santa-and-his-reindeer-flying
"The Santa Claus we know and love was invented by a New Yorker, it really is true," Hutton said. "It was the work of Clement Clarke Moore, in New York City in 1822, who suddenly turned a medieval saint into a flying, reindeer-driving spirit of the Northern midwinter."
And Moore brought that beloved Santa Claus to life in his poem, "A Visit from St. Nicholas," otherwise known as "The Night Before Christmas."
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I remember one Christmas Eve, as a young child, I saw Santa and his sleigh flying through the night sky! Decades before my first psychedelic mushroom, lol...
Eggnog I don't know, but Rudolph and Santa, I'll bet that has old roots. Obviously from far northern climes. Anyway, the Christmas tree was added as well....
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ch/thepastinthepresent/storybehind/whychristmastrees.html
The sun begins it's return northern journey on the Winter Solstice. Solstice means "stand-still". The sun rises and sets in the same spot for a few days. It stands still. But, then it begins it's return journey north, and all is well. The world was saved, because the sun would now return with it's Spring warmth, and bring with it the ability to grow food again. This is why the solstice was celebrated and viewed as so important by ancient people. The sun was reborn, the world would continue.
And what better way to symbolize everlasting life then with an evergreen tree?
Edit: well, here's a possible origin for Santa and Rudolph's red nose! I've seen this explanation offered before. Was Santa a psychedelic mushroom eating shaman?
https://www.livescience.com/42077-8-ways-mushrooms-explain-santa.html
Well, but really, Santa does not actually appear until 1822:
https://www.npr.org/2010/12/24/132260025/did-shrooms-send-santa-and-his-reindeer-flying
"The Santa Claus we know and love was invented by a New Yorker, it really is true," Hutton said. "It was the work of Clement Clarke Moore, in New York City in 1822, who suddenly turned a medieval saint into a flying, reindeer-driving spirit of the Northern midwinter."
And Moore brought that beloved Santa Claus to life in his poem, "A Visit from St. Nicholas," otherwise known as "The Night Before Christmas."
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I remember one Christmas Eve, as a young child, I saw Santa and his sleigh flying through the night sky! Decades before my first psychedelic mushroom, lol...
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carolinajazz
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The Santa Myth—Breach of Trust?
“I don’t believe there is a God,” seven-year-old John told his mother. A World Herald article explains why: “John, it seemed, had learned earlier that day that Santa Claus wasn’t real. Maybe God wasn’t real either, he told his mother.” Recalling his early disillusionment, 25-year-old John said: “When parents tell children Santa is real, I think that probably is a breach of trust.”
What to do about this delicate situation? Child experts disagree. One encouraged parents to tell their children the truth by age six or seven, warning that “it may actually be harmful to their psyches when parents persist in perpetuating the myth.”
In the book Why Kids Lie—How Parents Can Encourage Truthfulness, Dr.*Paul Ekman states: “There is no doubt that you as parents have a major influence on your children when it comes to attitudes, beliefs, and social actions such as lying or cheating.” Ekman continues: “Relationships may not be the same once a lie has violated trust. The loss of trust is difficult to repair; sometimes it is never reparable.”
One child researcher asserted: “I think children are more traumatized by parents lying to them and deceiving them than they are about finding out that Santa Claus isn’t real.” Dr.*Judith A.*Boss, professor of philosophy, states: “The intention of adults .*.*. is to deliberately mislead children about the nature of Santa Claus. .*.*. In telling children Santa Claus is a real human, we are not engaging children’s imaginations. We are simply lying to them.”
carolinajazz
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THE Bible shows that Jesus was 33 1/2 years old when he was impaled in the early spring of the year 33 C.E., at the time of the Jewish Passover. This means, counting backward, that he was born in the early fall of the year.
Pagan Rome’s celebration of Saturnalia, the birthday of the invincible sun, was some three months later. How did the celebration of Jesus’ birth get pushed forward to December 25, to make it coincide blasphemously with the pagan celebration of the birthday of the sun?
The ever-shorter days of December stirred up superstitious panic among the sun worshipers, who feared that their god was dying. They burned candles and lit bonfires to help revive the ailing deity. It seemed to work. Following the winter solstice of December 21, the sun-god appeared to regain his strength as the days grew longer.
“December was the major month of pagan celebration, and Dec. 25 was the high point of the winter revelries,” explains Church Christmas Tab. “Some believe the bishop of Rome chose Dec. 25 as the birth date of Christ in order to ‘sanctify’ the pagan celebrations. What resulted was a strange mixture of the pagan and the Christian festivals that the world now calls Christmas.” The article admits: “The word ‘Christmas’ does not appear in the Bible. And Scripture gives no mandate for celebrating Jesus’ birth.”
Pagan Rome’s celebration of Saturnalia, the birthday of the invincible sun, was some three months later. How did the celebration of Jesus’ birth get pushed forward to December 25, to make it coincide blasphemously with the pagan celebration of the birthday of the sun?
The ever-shorter days of December stirred up superstitious panic among the sun worshipers, who feared that their god was dying. They burned candles and lit bonfires to help revive the ailing deity. It seemed to work. Following the winter solstice of December 21, the sun-god appeared to regain his strength as the days grew longer.
“December was the major month of pagan celebration, and Dec. 25 was the high point of the winter revelries,” explains Church Christmas Tab. “Some believe the bishop of Rome chose Dec. 25 as the birth date of Christ in order to ‘sanctify’ the pagan celebrations. What resulted was a strange mixture of the pagan and the Christian festivals that the world now calls Christmas.” The article admits: “The word ‘Christmas’ does not appear in the Bible. And Scripture gives no mandate for celebrating Jesus’ birth.”
