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They killed my son because he's black (Saratoga Springs)

moevillini said:
Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson could be a couple of reasons...

People aren't rioting in Saratoga Springs could be another...
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Good points.

I guess the media can only handle one thing at a time. Ferguson was soooooo 2 weeks ago. The flavor of the week now is the NFL. I'm guessing Kimmy K will do something stupid which will occupy the media's attention next week. And the cycle of terrible reporting rolls on...
 
Nate505 said:
That does seem odd that he would lunge at them with a sword, the cops wouldn't decide to fire at him and wait until his back was turned. Unless a cop was positioned in the back of him I guess.
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I see this a little differently, but maybe the caught on he was somewhat disturbed and were trying to avoid the whole confrontation by "talking him down". He felt threatened, and maybe tried to make a show at the cops, but they still felt mostly in control and maybe he even turned around because they asked him to. Then, he takes off and heads toward an area with more people, not following their directions. As soon as innocent bystanders were threatened they took action so he couldn't do anything to anyone else. We just don't know but I see this scenario as highly plausible.
 
The comments on this story are pretty funny though. "no one cares if a guy walks into a mall with an AR-15? While this guy is blown away carrying a sword?"

LOL.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Say what you want about protecting the public, but the Ferguson guy didn't have a weapon and the Utah guy had a machete, not a gun. I didn't read anything about him threatening anyone with the machete. I still say that lethal force was unnecessary based on the reports that I read. As one poster commented, the policemen on the beat are often not very competent or intelligent individuals, and not trained well enough for such situations.

Not only that, I don't recall in days of yore (when I grew up), reports of police shooting and killing people in situations where lethal weapons were not being used against them.
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Just when I thought we'd reached the bottom of the barrel, psycho4u decides to grace us with his infinite wisdom of the days of yore. We're so lucky.

QuinSnydersHair said:
I never said you had to let it go unchallenged. At all. But you can be somewhat mature or restrained in your tone while still being aggressive, intelligent and dickish. Unless you want to be banned for like the fourth time, only to come back to Jason on hands and knees, begging for reinstatement, your tail between your legs. Then have at it. That's your call. I'm just presenting to you what I see.
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While I appreciate your concern, I think I'll take my chances. I find it rather disheartening that nobody else is stepping up to defend police officers as a whole, and that nobody else has problems with the generalized, offensive, and flat out incorrect statements that HighlandScumbag is making about police officers. Where is OneBrow on this one?

Anyway, as long as HH (one of the worst alts this board has ever seen, btw) is coming at me with this kind of nonsense, then the gloves will happily remain off:

HighlandHomie said:
We're just lucky these racist ingrates who have dumb, base hobbies like shooting, hunting or wrestling weren't vain enough to run for public office. It's easy enough to become a cop and be handed a gun. Only a real sociopath, with no qualifications would try to run for public office to have "that type of power".
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LogGrad98 said:
If either of them approached a place of business carrying a sword and walked away from police trying to contain a situation they were called out for then likely it would have ended the same.
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If it had been a white man, the police treatment from the beginning, and the entire interaction, would have been different, if they had interacted at all. If the man were no troubled, he probably would not have tried to run. You can't just take a different person, plop him into the scenario, and say he would have been treated the same. The entire interaction would be different, start to finish.
 
One Brow said:
If it had been a white man, the police treatment from the beginning, and the entire interaction, would have been different, if they had interacted at all. If the man were no troubled, he probably would not have tried to run. You can't just take a different person, plop him into the scenario, and say he would have been treated the same. The entire interaction would be different, start to finish.
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We can agree to disagree on this one then. I do not believe that if a white man acting erratically caring a sword turned against police orders and started moving of toward a group of bystanders that the police would have done nothing about it. I also do not believe that if people saw a white man with a sword acting erratically they wouldn't have called the police in the first place. I think you have overly sensitized yourself to the point of being ludicrous at times. I think police train for scenarios and that by and large that training has more bearing on the situation than every humans inborn murderous loathing of the black race.
 
One Brow said:
Waiting for additional evidence before he decides who is at fault.
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As is everyone really. All of this is speculation. The sad fact of the matter is that we may never know what really happened.
 
Stupid bitch. I would kicked my grown son *** if he goed into public with Japones sword. It's like these parents let daughters enter public in pajamies with stupids on the butt like cutie and pink. No bitch, you is not going out to public dressed like this.
 
So I'm not the biggest fan of police.
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What I've got from this thread. (haven't read anything else)
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But if this guy was carrying a sword.
Not responding to demands to drop the sword.
And running away from police toward other civilian while carrying the sword.
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If all of those things are true, then frankly the guy who got shot is a dumbass or a threat. Either way I have a hard time blaming the police.
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When I was a kid (18 years old). I and friends were playing with a cap gun at night in a parking lot. The police showed up pulled their guns told my idiot buddy to drop the gun. I call him an idiot because he tried to tell them it was a toy and held it up. He only dropped it when I told him to stop being an idiot and put it on the ground. I feel lucky I did not watch him get shot. Or get shot myself.
 
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LogGrad98 said:
I do not believe that if a white man acting erratically caring a sword turned against police orders and started moving of toward a group of bystanders that the police would have done nothing about it.
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I don't recall saying anything that would disagree with you, and certainly did not in what you posted.

LogGrad98 said:
I also do not believe that if people saw a white man with a sword acting erratically ...
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What are the erratic actions this man took?
 
gregbroncs said:
So I'm not the biggest fan of police.
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What I've got from this thread. (haven't read anything else)
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But if this guy was carrying a sword.
Not responding to demands to drop the sword.
And running away from police toward other civilian while carrying the sword.
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So far, all the indications are that he was carrying the sword in a scabbard, on his back.

From the link in the OP:

While all agree he stood out with his 3-foot sword strapped to his back,
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A witness later sent Susan Hunt a photo of police confronting her son outside the bank just prior to shots being fired. In the picture, two officers are standing on either side of Darrien. The sword is not visible in the picture.
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There's a picture on Raw Story, IIRC, of how he would typically carry the sword.
 
One Brow said:
So far, all the indications are that he was carrying the sword in a scabbard, on his back.

From the link in the OP:





There's a picture on Raw Story, IIRC, of how he would typically carry the sword.
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That would undoubtedly change things. I still have a problem with a guy not listening to the police. But not enough to get shot. If they shot him with the sword in a scabbard then they should stand trial for 1st degree murder.
 
One Brow said:
So far, all the indications are that he was carrying the sword in a scabbard, on his back.

From the link in the OP:





There's a picture on Raw Story, IIRC, of how he would typically carry the sword.
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Shouldn't have commented without reading the story. Was just being Lazy. If it's true the sword was on his back in a scabbard then my previous statements are wrong.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I see this a little differently, but maybe the caught on he was somewhat disturbed and were trying to avoid the whole confrontation by "talking him down". He felt threatened, and maybe tried to make a show at the cops, but they still felt mostly in control and maybe he even turned around because they asked him to. Then, he takes off and heads toward an area with more people, not following their directions. As soon as innocent bystanders were threatened they took action so he couldn't do anything to anyone else. We just don't know but I see this scenario as highly plausible.
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Perhaps, but the story the cops are claiming now is that he was charging at the police, not at random bystanders.

Like others have said, this is another great reason the cops should wear lapel cameras.
 
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