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But I think Koufos could've been the perfect compliment to Jefferson.

Koufos has height, speed, and proven ability to play good defense* that Jefferson doesn't have and Jefferson has length and power that Koufos doesn't have, so they would compliment each other well on D.

I see Koufos as a player that could be a nice-man's Bill Laimbeer (guy who can shoot and play good D). Or later career 'Sheed on D (before last season), poor-man's Memo on offense. Or poor-man's Raef Lafrentz before he totally broke down.

If that were to be the case, Koufos could conceivably be a floor-spreader and defensive-minded player (similar to a Raja Bell but a big instead of a wing) that allow other players' weaknesses to be supplemented and are paramount to team-play on both sides of the court.

As we all know, Koufos didn't play well last year but I feel he had a very promising rookie season and he looked to just be jittery from no playing time in his second. *His defense in his rookie season was especially exciting to see. And he's been scouted as a good shooter his entire life before the NBA. I could see him get there if he had a chance to develop and get rid of the nerves.

My position on Koufos is likely to never be seen as I thought he was in a fragile position and the trade appears to be a prelude to being out of the NBA.

Anyway, so the offseason stretches forth. What great weather though, am I right?
 
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Probably could get him back without giving up to much. He will be like their 6th 4/5 position player on the depth chart. Looked decent in summer league. If Fes doesnt come back who knows?
 
Don't disagree. I'm an AVID college basketball fan and follow recruiting 24/7. I watched Koufos in high school, college, and with the Jazz (limited obviously). I was disappointed when we gave him up (when it didn't seem to be a necessary/critical component of the 'trade') as I felt he was coming close to being a meaningful contributor. He has the tools to be a great backup.
 
NUMBERICA said:
But I think Koufos could've been the perfect compliment to Jefferson.

Koufos has height, speed, and proven ability to play good defense* that Jefferson doesn't have and Jefferson has length and power that Koufos doesn't have, so they would compliment each other well on D.

I see Koufos as a player that could be a nice-man's Bill Laimbeer (guy who can shoot and play good D). Or later career 'Sheed on D (before last season), poor-man's Memo on offense. Or poor-man's Raef Lafrentz before he totally broke down.

If that were to be the case, Koufos could conceivably be a floor-spreader and defensive-minded player (similar to a Raja Bell but a big instead of a wing) that allow other players' weaknesses to be supplemented and are paramount to team-play on both sides of the court.

As we all know, Koufos didn't play well last year but I feel he had a very promising rookie season and he looked to just be jittery from no playing time in his second. His defense in his rookie season was especially exciting to see. And he's been scouted as a good shooter his entire life before the NBA. I could see him get there if he had a chance to develop and get rid of the nerves.

My position on Koufos is likely to never be seen as I thought he was in a fragile position and the trade appears to be a prelude to being out of the NBA.

Anyway, so the offseason stretches forth. What great weather though, am I right?
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I'm down. Let's pick him up off waivers when the day comes.

I, for one, will be rooting for the kid in Minn.
 
Sorry to have to be the voice of reason around these parts, but potential be damned, Kosta Koufos is awful. I'm happy they were able to get even that little bit of salary relief.
 
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Sorry to have to be the voice of reason around these parts, but potential be damned, Kosta Koufos is awful. I'm happy they were able to get even that little bit of salary relief.
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Hey VoiceOfReason, Kosta Koufos is better than most (if not all) D-League scrubs and foreign league castaways available. He was a decent rebounder, which is one of the few legitimate virtues that can be said about Marcin Gortat also. And he practiced hard and seemed to be a decent guy off the court, which seems to be a heavily weighted factor in these here parts. And he had some promising moments in his first season until Sloan banished him to the bench for months on end for no apparent reason.

I'd say that he's in the neighborhood skillwise of Elson, and KK2 is 10 years younger. Unless they think they can easily get him back, I'd say that it was a bit premature to let him go, especially given that Utah knew that they would be deep in the LT and that Okur would be iffy. He wasn't making much, and he knows the system.

One thing is letting go a short-armed Araujo or a drug-in-the-butt-cheek-carrying Whaley, but like Fes, Kouf wasn't able to get much of a rhythm or experience averaging less than 5 minutes a game.
 
He was OK his rookie season because nobody had any idea who the **** he was. He was not terrible last season because of nerves, he was terrible because he's not an NBA player. He couldn't run the offense, couldn't guard anybody, couldn't shoot, and couldn't catch a pass, and he was just a flat out ******. He's terrible and I'm shocked at this thread.
 
NUMBERICA said:
But I think Koufos could've been the perfect compliment to Jefferson.

Koufos has height, speed, and proven ability to play good defense* that Jefferson doesn't have and Jefferson has length and power that Koufos doesn't have, so they would compliment each other well on D.

I see Koufos as a player that could be a nice-man's Bill Laimbeer (guy who can shoot and play good D). Or later career 'Sheed on D (before last season), poor-man's Memo on offense. Or poor-man's Raef Lafrentz before he totally broke down.

If that were to be the case, Koufos could conceivably be a floor-spreader and defensive-minded player (similar to a Raja Bell but a big instead of a wing) that allow other players' weaknesses to be supplemented and are paramount to team-play on both sides of the court.

As we all know, Koufos didn't play well last year but I feel he had a very promising rookie season and he looked to just be jittery from no playing time in his second. *His defense in his rookie season was especially exciting to see. And he's been scouted as a good shooter his entire life before the NBA. I could see him get there if he had a chance to develop and get rid of the nerves.

My position on Koufos is likely to never be seen as I thought he was in a fragile position and the trade appears to be a prelude to being out of the NBA.

Anyway, so the offseason stretches forth. What great weather though, am I right?
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Did you watch any games last season? Koufos palys defense??? All he does is jack up wild shots. Jarron Collins is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Koufos.
 
Haha, I can't tell if this thread is serious or not...

I will always remember, "Boom Bitches", but that was far and away his best/only contribution to the Jazz.

Science > Konstantine
 
Am I just not seeing this potential in Boom that everyone else is? He was one of the more awful Jazz players I've seen in quite some time. He looked lost out there most of the time, and didn't seem to make up for it with any sort of aggressiveness.

Ok, after reading, the word "everyone" is a bit off.
 
Players don't just get worse at 20 and in their second season. No one disagrees Koufos was horrendous last year when shown the floor, but he looked significantly better after he got sent to the D-League and then called back up.

I just think the kid needed more of a chance and for the price (practically nothing, + team options) the dump seems loony. But again, he's probably on his way out and I probably won't get a chance to say I told you so.

Edit: He'll find his way back to the NBA at some point. He'll probably end up in Europe for a couple of years and then come back to the NBA as a free agent. So we'll see.
 
Kosta Koufos gets paid 1.2 Million this year. Francisco Elson is going to get paid the Veteran Minimum. He is also 34 years old. Koufos is 21. We didn't save any money Jazzfanz.

He gets pushed around a lot
He is also foul prone.
He can occasionally hit the mid range shot
Athletic for his size
Can block shots occasionally
Not much of an offensive game

Which player am I describing here? because they sound very similar. Jazz made a dumb move by trading him away when he is only 21 and could of developed. Francisco Elson is 34 and will never develop.
I am not saying one player is better than the other but Koufos could improve over time. Elson is not an upgrade over Koufos. We could of let Koufos go next summer anyways if we didn't like his 3rd year.
The Jazz need to stop drafting projects. Projects need playing time. If we are not going to give them playing time than we are wasting our draft picks. They have no experience. Practice doesn't increase your experience. So I guess I am glad Koufos is going to a new team so he can develop. Jazz wouldn't play him anyways.
 
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