homeytennis
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When the Jazz went on their run last year they shot well even Bricky Ricky. If they don't do that again hello lottery.
this team might just suck.
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LoPo
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The Jazz actually shot better from 3 last year in the first half of the season (Before January 1st) than they did post January 1st. So you're wrong.
Again, I will repeat it, the Jazz went on the run last year because of defense.
Of course they do need to shoot better. They are shooting worse this year than they were for any stretch last year, but it's not like they have to shoot lights out to win. They just have to be average.
Russell Another slow unathletic player just what the jazz need
Yeah, I'd have to agree with you. Russell is a guy who is on fire from mid-range right now. He's a good shooter, but a lot of that seems unsustainable. He is terrible at getting to the FT line, like unfathomably bad. His combo of high usage and low free throw rate is as close to an automatic turnoff as it gets. He might be more of a 6th man than a starter. He's playing like Rodney Hood who passes a bit more but holds the ball longer.
I wouldn't mind trading for him, but I wouldn't give up a first or take back a bad contract. So unless they want to give him away for some combo of a 2nd rounder, Jae Crowder, and Grayson Allen, I wouldn't do it.
LoPo
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He would actually compliment Donovan and the others quite well. He is going for 17.5, 6 and 4 right now on a team that doesn't have a Donovan or Ingles. http://m.espn.com/nba/playerseasonstats?season=2019&playerId=3136776&teamId=17
The guy isn't crazy athletic, but he is good in the PnR and plays with guys in Brooklyn who are far inferior to what we have:
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MVP
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he is 5X better player than Exum.
And honestly, I don't even know if I would do that. Russell could get overpaid. It's a Rodney Hood situation right now for the Nets. His stats are inflated on a bad team where they need his usage, so he puts up better counting stats.
Ok if you say so. He's been given every chance to get those stats. Dante has never been given a chance except stand in the corner!!! I actually heard Russell isn't a efficient player according to what Locke said with his numbers. But quin loves slow unathletic players so I wouldn't be surprised. I must say ingles is slow but he's really good though. But he's an exception
radiohegel
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In most scenarios, I would be intrigued at the idea of picking up a player like Russell and seeing what QS can do with him. However, The Nets, for all their issues, do seem to have a really excellent player development program going, so I'm a little more hesitant when it's them throwing in the towel.
LoPo
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So you love and want Dinwiddie but question Russell. You dont question Dinwiddie's team but you do question Russell's. Both on the same team.
C'mon man
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I will hit unmute to respond to this:
They are incredibly different players.
The Jazz don't need a ball-dominant jump shooter who does nothing else. They had that with Hood and traded him.
Dinwiddie attacks the basket, draws fouls, and doesnt dominate the ball.
And back to ignore you go.
Alfalfa
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Douchebag K
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Russell .. can shoot but we don't need another atrocious rim finisher. We have plenty of guys who can miss a layup thnx
Noomskull
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This is the same team as last year, did we suck when we took down the Thunder? We’ll be fine. We have a leader who is a sophomore in the league and a rising star. Yeah Spida is missing the shots that he was draining last year at a ridiculous clip and it’s very frustrating as a fan to watch but we are a damn good team and have a bright future.
Please chill out and stop attacking each other, JazzFanz is becoming very mutinous and nearly unbearable to read.
Please chill out and stop attacking each other, JazzFanz is becoming very mutinous and nearly unbearable to read.
Sandman822
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I get what you mean, but it's not so much about bad teams not being as bad this year as it is about the Jazz being a much better team when they actually get to play at home, and prior to these three losses on the road (Spurs was a bad one) they were 9 - 7 while slowly improving their home record closer to .500 after a bad start at home.
Jazz have a -1.8 net rating on the road, they're a +3.0 at home. The Jazz' true shooting % is 54.7% on the road, 58.5% at home. You can argue that these are normal for NBA teams to play better at home than on the road and I agree, but then it kinda comes back around to the point of the schedule being the hardest schedule for any team in the league right now as the Jazz have played 19 games on the road but only 11 at home so far. The Jazz have also played in 5 B2Bs already and they have only had one three game homestand the entire season.
Last year was last year. So thinking the Jazz are just going to go on a run doesn't mean it will happen. The Western conference is more competitive than last year. The bad teams are no longer bad. The only really bad team is the Suns and they are young and rebuilding.
There is nothing wrong with pointing out the reality of the situation. The reality is the Jazz are not a good shooting team. They lack guys who can score when the offense breaks down. The Jazz defense is not as good simply because of the rule changes. All around the league scoring is up. i don' think one team is holding anyone under 100 pts so far. There is still plenty of time for the Jazz to turn it around but guys need to start making shots consistently. Donovan is struggling because teams have adjusted and he has been hurt. However, it is painfully obvious that Utah needs another guy who can break down the other team while Donovan is resting or having an off night.
Another reason why the Jazz are not as good is Rubio, he is playing below his level last year. Rubio's play in the second half of the season and against the Thunder was a big reason why the Jazz were successful. The reality is Ricky has come down to earth and is shooting more like he has in his career which isn't going to get it done. Every game is so important more than other years because of the depth in the conference. Jazz need to get it together soon or the hole will be too deep for them to recover.
There is nothing wrong with pointing out the reality of the situation. The reality is the Jazz are not a good shooting team. They lack guys who can score when the offense breaks down. The Jazz defense is not as good simply because of the rule changes. All around the league scoring is up. i don' think one team is holding anyone under 100 pts so far. There is still plenty of time for the Jazz to turn it around but guys need to start making shots consistently. Donovan is struggling because teams have adjusted and he has been hurt. However, it is painfully obvious that Utah needs another guy who can break down the other team while Donovan is resting or having an off night.
Another reason why the Jazz are not as good is Rubio, he is playing below his level last year. Rubio's play in the second half of the season and against the Thunder was a big reason why the Jazz were successful. The reality is Ricky has come down to earth and is shooting more like he has in his career which isn't going to get it done. Every game is so important more than other years because of the depth in the conference. Jazz need to get it together soon or the hole will be too deep for them to recover.
I agree the schedule has something to do with the Jazz record. However they are losing to teams they need to make and win in the playoffs. Their home record is embarrassing and is a major concern because there is no evidence that they will just start turning it on at home and go on a winning streak.