Are you shocked that he is a liberal, and GASP... a chrisitian!!
According to a good number of convervatives that is just not possible. *snicker*
According to a good number of convervatives that is just not possible. *snicker*
Through Jesus, I am defined by being God's child.
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Gyp Rosetti
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JC doesn't sound like he would have been such a bad cat with which to hang.
Not quite JC, just a couple of gay teenage boys in Iran. They might be cool to hang with, too.
Inn Dawn
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I hope you mean WESTERN human civilization. Because otherwise:
Hahahhahaah. Right. I'm sure Hinduism, the oldest religion in the world, was heavily influenced by the Bible. If anything, it is easier to believe that the Bible was influenced by the Vedas.
-Deron Williams
How does Vinylone feel that Deron wanted to share this message? Just wondering.
Utah and their religious folk, eh?
https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Deron-Williams/164265529615
Wow, what an incredibly awkward and rather demeaning thread.
I think I read somewhere that Deron found Jesus over this past off season. I guess you're thinking I have a problem with that. Why should I? If it makes him a more responsible and productive member of society, than its a step in the right direction. Deron's facebook is "his" facebook, so I dont have a problem with him writing whatever he wants to write...regardless of my opinion on tact regarding personal beliefs.
Archie, you should be ashamed of yourself.
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This is all very confusing to me. I thought Deron WAS Jesus.
No, he's just God.
Duck Rodgers
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I thought the more interesting part was Deron's Jazzfanz shoutout. First we have the C.J./Trout exchange, now this:
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I seriously had no idea he was missing. Why wasn't I told!?
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Kind of off topic, but I believe Jesus was a very powerful wizard, more so than Gandolph.
Kind of on topic- I dont think Deron updates his page himself.
Kind of on topic- I dont think Deron updates his page himself.
The God or more like a Egyptian God where he is battling other Gods and loudly pronounces his anger with his allied Gods when they lose a battle.
At the risk of being hammered for responding, I will.
God exists and is real, Jesus exists and really is the Son of God.... and here is how anyone can find out for themselves.
First, you have to think about and be grateful for all of the good things God has done for people since the creation of Adam, down to the good things he has given you.
Second, you have to want to know if it is true, with the intent to do something about it when you receive an answer. If you want to get an answer but plan on doing nothing about it you probably will not get an answer. If you have to have this real intent, and have some faith in Christ..... then if you pray and ask God, in the name of Christ if he is real, and if Christ really is his Son and the Savior, and whatever else you want to know, he will tell you through the Holy Spirit in a way you will recognize.
If you are mocking, or don't have any faith at all, or do not have a real intent to do something with the answer you receive you probably will not receive an answer.
The other thing... it helps to read some of the words of God before as a basis for what you are asking, and it also helps that you don't give up if you do not get an answer the first time. Sometimes it takes a consistent effort to really know.... personally I think God wants us to prove to him how important it is to us to know something.
Answers come in different ways, sometimes you just know in your mind. Sometimes you feel all warm inside, blablabla... you will know. Basically God speaks to you in a language you will understand.
This is just my thoughts on this.... I figure we will hear shortly what other people think of this.
Who is Jerry then? I'm confused.
Funny... but you may have missed the first part.... you have to want to.
Oh well, better luck next time.
Funny... but you may have missed the first part.... you have to want to.
Oh well, better luck next time.
Can I ask why I would want to? Not trolling.
Ok, there are a million reasons, but I will go with the ones I think are most important.
Take this as my point of view, based on what I "know" to be true or right, or whatever.
Let's just assume for arguments sake, that I am right and the following statements are a given.
God is real, and is your Father.
Jesus is real and is the Son of God, did live when they say he did, did atone for the sins of all the world like the Bible and other sources say he did, and did die, and was resurrected 3 days later, and.... is alive today with the Father.
The Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit, whatever you want to call him is alive, and is a personage of spirit whose job it is to be a link between God and people, and can tell people what is true, and will "testify" of Christ as the Son of God, etc...
God still does "speak" to people on the earth, and we call them Prophets.
God has a "plan" for us on this earth. There is a reason we are here, and there are things we can to to accomplish this plan. If we do the things he has asked, or required of us, while we are here, we can be like him, and inherit as his sons and daughters all he has.... which I think means we will have more and be happier than if we don't.
We were alive before we were born on the earth. We will be alive after we die, and things don't just end when we die.
Ok.. that's a start... there is much more to it..... but for simplicity's sake... follow me here.
God sends us to the earth with a purpose, asks us to do a few things and says if we do he will reward us and that we will become like him. We all agree to come, knowing we will not remember and it will require faith to figure it out. See, God probably wants to know what we will do once we are on our own as a test. It's easy to do what our parent says when they are hovering over us... a little more of a test to do what they say when they are not there watching... or so we think. We get here, and the test is on. Now it's up to us to prove our true colors.
Some of us will say.... now it's time to do whatever I want, and I don't care. Some will try to figure it out. Some will.... blablabla.. you get it. Now to the why would you want to find out.
If this is all real like I say it is, why would you not want to know. It would be like living in a lie your whole life because you didn't want to find out for yourself if it was true. Why live in ignorance knowing you can do something about it. If you like your life now and do not want to find out.... that's a choice... but when all is said and done will have no complaints of the consequences when we meet God again. I say consequences instead of blessings or punishments because I believe good or bad it is a natural consequence just like jumping off of a cliff to test the law of gravity has a consequence.... all of our choices enact some sort of consequence.
Anyways, just some of my thoughts which barely covers any of the why's and is not as clearly stated as I hoped it would be.
Archie Moses
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I don't think you have a problem with it because he found Jesus, but because he publicly shared it, guy. You said yourself you find that annoying.
Because he shared it. *See thread you made and comments you made in regards to this.
Right, people can share their beliefs how they want. I'm glad you agree, or do you?
Not ashamed at all, guy.
Cool! Thanks, man.
PearlWatson
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Not quite JC, just a couple of gay teenage boys in Iran. They might be cool to hang with, too.
That's Allah & Muhammad...JC is just a lieutenant to the 12th Imam.