Have we or are those just rumors?
Tobias Harris wants to come to utah
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Have we or are those just rumors?
I think it’s easy for Joe to take a beating when a team has an offense that requires you to only put pressure on two guys. Things should be different when he’s a secondary facilitator and spot-up shooter.
Well, this whole thread is predicated on Tony Jones rumors, so unless we want to pick and choose among those.
Yes it does, it makes us way better.
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He also had said he was struggling a bit because he was a main focus outside of Donovan by opposing defenses. Conley helps tremendously but Tobias would be huge for his game imo.
Darkwing Duck
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You typed that with a ton of Utah-centric glasses. What team felt like Favors' contract was an overpay? Last year was very team friendly free agent environment. This year it's player friendly.
Harris is good, but I doubt he'll live up to a max contract.
Jazz value him highly, as they should. How much of "on the trading block" has been actual trade discussions or fan/media speculation? Only problem Favors has here is fit. I would view Harris as lateral at absolute best with added cost of removing above replacement level players.
Harris is good, but I doubt he'll live up to a max contract.
Jazz value him highly, as they should. How much of "on the trading block" has been actual trade discussions or fan/media speculation? Only problem Favors has here is fit. I would view Harris as lateral at absolute best with added cost of removing above replacement level players.
Darkwing Duck
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I heavily disagree.
But in any case, my point is some of this information should facilitate us asking ourselves those questions. Note that I’m not saying that it means any particular conclusion, just that we should ask ourselves the question. You’re response seems akin to finding reasons to not ask the question.
Agree, Harris might not have us at the top of his list. This is us playing a hypothetical game and hoping.
Also TJ is a little more believable source than what we have heard about Favors.
I am sure he has been discussed by teams but obviously the Jazz like Favors and value him highly. The FO says they are always looking to upgrade every position.
Favors had no other offers. He met with no other teams. Find me a player who has signed a deal in the past two years as large as his who doesn’t close games.
Favors being offered to Chicago for Niko was a TJ report.
Darkwing Duck
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He had no offers? Are you saying if the Jazz didn't sign him he wouldn't have been in the league last year?
Favors only played 23 minutes a game last year and never closed games for us because he is a terrible fit next to Gobert. In Haris we would have a 20 ppg scorer that stretches the floor, is a 40% 3 point shooter AND can play 34 minutes and close every game because he would fit perfectly next to Gobert. He would make us significantly better than Favors.
What I would like to know is how do you know there wasnt anyone talking to Favors last year? And how do you know he was in trade talks the last 3 years? Cause you read it on the internets? Or are you some kind of psychic that knows all? You sound like you have insider knowledge. Tell us who you really are?
On the offensive end yes. But not the defensive side. But I would take the offensive risk over losing defense. Just not sure the FO would.
Darkwing Duck
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And would cripple the Jazz defense. And the "don't worry, Gobert is there" explanation didn't work when during the beginning of the year the Jazz guards were doing just that and the defense was bad.
Also will have replacement level center minutes so the center position over 48 minutes will be weakened. It's lateral at best.
And the Jazz said no according to him?
Lineup data suggest that we were better with Joe Johnson and Gobert on the floor together when Johnson was here than Gobert and Favors. Johnson wasn't any good on D but our defense was still fine when he was on the floor and our offense was much better. And Tobias is much better than Johnson was at that stage of his career.
