The problem is, the best pick is different depending on Tomic. If he isn't coming, then Turner or Kaminsky at 12 makes sense. If he is, they would do better getting a wing, and might use future picks to move up and get the guy they want.
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The problem is, the best pick is different depending on Tomic. If he isn't coming, then Turner or Kaminsky at 12 makes sense. If he is, they would do better getting a wing, and might use future picks to move up and get the guy they want.
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With the NBA offseason set up like it is, you can't count on free agency to work out a certain way for you. In this case, I'd do everything in my power to get the best player I can. Trade up, stay put, draft a wing, draft a center. . . it doesn't matter. Just add talent. After I know who I get, I can focus on my free agency strategy. Tomic is a part of that. Regardless of who I get in the draft, I'm going to try to get him to come over. Especially since my draft targets are primarily young guys who will need time to develop. I think that
Tomic fills a different role than Kaminsky/Turner since they can (potentially) play with either Gobert or Favors. WCS is the only guy that worries me in the top 12 or so prospects, because he's probably just a center playing with Favors/Booker. Adding Tomic to that group feels a bit like a traffic jam.
Tomic (and any free agents really) is more for immediate help and depth, while my draft pick is for taking a chance to draft and develop a long-term starter - hopefully an All-Star caliber player. You can't count on landing Tomic, but I wouldn't discount it either. Add talent, and let the coaching staff sort out the roles and playing time.
Tomic fills a different role than Kaminsky/Turner since they can (potentially) play with either Gobert or Favors. WCS is the only guy that worries me in the top 12 or so prospects, because he's probably just a center playing with Favors/Booker. Adding Tomic to that group feels a bit like a traffic jam.
Tomic (and any free agents really) is more for immediate help and depth, while my draft pick is for taking a chance to draft and develop a long-term starter - hopefully an All-Star caliber player. You can't count on landing Tomic, but I wouldn't discount it either. Add talent, and let the coaching staff sort out the roles and playing time.
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More info on the contract impasse. Sounds like it's in Utah's best interests for his team to keep winning. The interesting thing is that it sounds like someone jumped the gun announcing the extension with Barca big time.
Considering the radio silence from the Jazz since then, I wonder how much they're doing behind the scenes to express their interest to his camp. Should be interesting.
https://saltcityhoops.com/tomic-teetering-the-croatian-big-still-up-in-the-air-reports-say/
Considering the radio silence from the Jazz since then, I wonder how much they're doing behind the scenes to express their interest to his camp. Should be interesting.
https://saltcityhoops.com/tomic-teetering-the-croatian-big-still-up-in-the-air-reports-say/
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nice! I still believe!!
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https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238064/Ante-Tomic-Remains-Undecided-On-Joining-Jazz
Ante Tomic remains undecided about his NBA plans.
Tomic was drafted by the Utah Jazz in 2008 and they would like to bring him over to help their frontcourt rotation.
"It’s neither yes nor no," Tomic told the Spanish publication Gigantes when asked whether he plans to leave Barcelona for the NBA and the Utah Jazz. "It’s difficult to summarize. Sometimes I see myself there and others no. I still have time to think it over."
Tomic has played for Barcelona since 2012 and is already 28 years old.
Ante Tomic remains undecided about his NBA plans.
Tomic was drafted by the Utah Jazz in 2008 and they would like to bring him over to help their frontcourt rotation.
"It’s neither yes nor no," Tomic told the Spanish publication Gigantes when asked whether he plans to leave Barcelona for the NBA and the Utah Jazz. "It’s difficult to summarize. Sometimes I see myself there and others no. I still have time to think it over."
Tomic has played for Barcelona since 2012 and is already 28 years old.
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https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238064/Ante-Tomic-Remains-Undecided-On-Joining-Jazz
Ante Tomic remains undecided about his NBA plans.
Tomic was drafted by the Utah Jazz in 2008 and they would like to bring him over to help their frontcourt rotation.
"It’s neither yes nor no," Tomic told the Spanish publication Gigantes when asked whether he plans to leave Barcelona for the NBA and the Utah Jazz. "It’s difficult to summarize. Sometimes I see myself there and others no. I still have time to think it over."
Tomic has played for Barcelona since 2012 and is already 28 years old.
Good grief.
Sorry to be late on this, but it doesn't change anything. It's old news. It was from 06/03/2015 (or as European dates are known to us, March 6, 2015). It already got its own round of Tomic talk going three months ago.
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Meh numbers? What? Name a center in the Euroleague averaging better numbers on a good team.
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People are failing to understand the ease Tomic would have in this offense. Who are these defense stalwart backup-5s he'll be going up against in the NBA? Speights? Maxiell? African dude in Charlotte? Hansbrough? Ian Mahinmi is probably the only one he'd have trouble with. Tomic will be fine.
He doesn't even need to score-- simply commanding some attention will provide space for him to find cutters. That's the whole ****ing point. He will provide on-POINT dimes for any cutter in this offense. Do yall realize how rare, elite, and sought-after of a skill that is? From a 7-footer no less?
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He doesn't even need to score-- simply commanding some attention will provide space for him to find cutters. That's the whole ****ing point. He will provide on-POINT dimes for any cutter in this offense. Do yall realize how rare, elite, and sought-after of a skill that is? From a 7-footer no less?
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homeytennis
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Jingles had similar numbers in Europe and he turned out OK for us.
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And if Tomic has half the personality that Jingles does, it will be well worth all the angst.
Seriously though. . . Quin Snyder is a coach that is favorable to international players because of his time under Messina. Plus, after they traded Kanter there were a number of times that they lined up Cooley and/or Evans at center. Good for them, but Tomic is a HUGE upgrade on both ends. The Jazz don't need him to be a star - just a capable backup who passes, scores some and gives a solid effort in team defense.
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As someone else pointed out, most European dates follow the dd/mm/yy protocol, so 03/06/15 would actually be the 3rd of June, not March 6th. The report also references the playoffs Tomic is currently competing in and that CSKA might be a suitor. So definitely NEW news,
I was responding to a specific article that was mentioned in the midst of the thread:
https://www.sportando.com/en/usa/nba/154549/jazz-will-reportedly-pay-the-buyout-for-ante-tomic.html
This was published 06/03/15 (March 6).
I wasn't responding to the reports originally got this round of Tomic talk going. I know they are "fresh" news.
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Has anyone considered that Tomic and the Jazz are waiting for the draft, and if they land Kaminsky, then it will be a no go?
Cappy_Smurf
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No. Utah isn't going to waste Tomic as an asset over Frank. Tomic might influence the way Utah drafts, but the draft won't influence the decision on Tomic.
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Jazz won't base their draft on getting or not getting Tomic. If they think Kaminsky or Turmer are the BPA's at #12 (if they're on the board), they'll draft that player. Jazz basically have three bigs: Gobert, Favors and Booker. The nice thing about Favors is that he can play the 5 when Gobert sits, or he can become a full-time 4. I think he'd prefer to play 30 mins. at the 4, but he'll do what the Jazz ask. So that leaves open the possibility of drafting either a 4 or a 5. Jazz will carry at least 5 bigs, so there is also another roster spot open at the 4/5.
Unfortunately, the Jazz are prohibited from talking contract specifics with Tomic until July 1st. So he CAN'T make a decision to play with the Jazz before that date; he has no way of knowing what they'll offer. IMO, the BPA probably won't be Kaminsky at #12. Jazz would be better served taking a PF to prepare for Booker's free agency after next season. Trevor may get offered too much in a market where owners will be spending like drunken sailors.
And if they miss out on Kaminsky and Tomic, they'll bring Pleiss over, go after a different backup in FA, or simply rely on Favors as their backup 5. Utah has decent options and can respond to any scenario.