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Kenrich Williams might be an amazing winning player hiding in plain sight... his on-off splits the last two years are WILD! One of the best in the league. That is also likely due to his team being trashy but there have been other guys that had great on/off stuff and turned out to be good players. I'm super disappointed we didn't push to get him back in the Favors for a first deal this offseason... feels like that could have been doable.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think Charlotte may be a team that does a deal... and possibly Hayward is in it. They have a salary crunch coming now that Bridges is going to get paid. Can likely alleviate part of that with a trade or waiving Oubre's salary next year. I doubt they keep all of Oubre, Hayward, and Martin next year.

Not sure a deal makes sense on our end... but I'd bet that is a team that does something
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Ainge is going to trade Ingles and Clarkson for Hayward.
 
Take the emotion out of it: would you trade Clarkson and Ingles for Hayward and then just sign Dunn?
 
infection said:
Take the emotion out of it: would you trade Clarkson and Ingles for Hayward and then just sign Dunn?
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Yeah for sure... in a second. The likely question is would you trade Bojan and Ingles for Hayward or Bojan and JC for Hayward.... I would think Bojan has to be involved in that deal.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Kenrich Williams might be an amazing winning player hiding in plain sight... his on-off splits the last two years are WILD! One of the best in the league. That is also likely due to his team being trashy but there have been other guys that had great on/off stuff and turned out to be good players. I'm super disappointed we didn't push to get him back in the Favors for a first deal this offseason... feels like that could have been doable.
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I can't quite tell if he's a starter-level player, but the Jazz make Royce look good by getting him open shots and open lanes. I'd imagine we could do the same with Williams.
 
infection said:
Take the emotion out of it: would you trade Clarkson and Ingles for Hayward and then just sign Dunn?
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The Jazz need a wing with some size who can create. A multi-skilled wing who can get in the middle of the floor makes all the difference. Ingles almost filled that role in recent seasons, but I don't think he has the energy to do it anymore.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Kenrich Williams might be an amazing winning player hiding in plain sight... his on-off splits the last two years are WILD! One of the best in the league. That is also likely due to his team being trashy but there have been other guys that had great on/off stuff and turned out to be good players. I'm super disappointed we didn't push to get him back in the Favors for a first deal this offseason... feels like that could have been doable.
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Problem with Kenrich is that he's not really a wing. He's good in the same way that Niang was good, but with less shooting and more defense, but he's still not a guy you want to put on athletic players.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Yeah for sure... in a second. The likely question is would you trade Bojan and Ingles for Hayward or Bojan and JC for Hayward.... I would think Bojan has to be involved in that deal.
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Ainge has a track record of getting Hayward for as little as possible.
 
Ainge needs to work his rule-breaking and have an under-the-table agreement where whoever we trade Ingles to will trade him to a third team who will then buy him out so we can sign him.
 
I don’t think Hayward is available. He’s really good, he wants to be there, and I don’t think their cap situation is bad at all.

Can’t think of a reason why they’d want to move him.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Problem with Kenrich is that he's not really a wing. He's good in the same way that Niang was good, but with less shooting and more defense, but he's still not a guy you want to put on athletic players.
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How is he not a wing? He gets twice as many steals and deflections as Niang and is a better rebounder. Better with the ball in his hand as a pick and roll ball handler, better passer. More fluid with his movements (not hard I know). I think he's a great connector fill the gap guy who can shoot a little. I think Niang is a volume spot up shooter who will move the ball along. I think Kenrich does a lot of things we need... not a wing stopper but those guys have other warts. I think Kenrich is closer to a younger Ingles than a Niang.
 
KqWIN said:
I don’t think Hayward is available. He’s really good, he wants to be there, and I don’t think their cap situation is bad at all.

Can’t think of a reason why they’d want to move him.
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They will not go into the tax... they will need to pay Bridges $30M next year... that means they will be very close to the tax and that is before they have addressed their center issue. They may not move him but he is older than their core guys... Hes a guy I could see being available. He won't go for the homer deals we have listed though.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
They will not go into the tax... they will need to pay Bridges $30M next year... that means they will be very close to the tax and that is before they have addressed their center issue. They may not move him but he is older than their core guys... Hes a guy I could see being available. He won't go for the homer deals we have listed though.
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Fine. I’m willing to include Oni and Udoka.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
They will not go into the tax... they will need to pay Bridges $30M next year... that means they will be very close to the tax and that is before they have addressed their center issue. They may not move him but he is older than their core guys... Hes a guy I could see being available. He won't go for the homer deals we have listed though.
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Even if he’s getting $30M (I don’t think he is) they have a ton of ways to get under the tax that do not involve moving Hayward’s salary. I think they are would be much quicker to move on from the other players on their roster.

Their cap situation isn’t bad. A ton of room under the tax and room to work with. Should be easy to get under the tax without having to trade a franchise cornerstone. Definitely not happening this TD.
 
It’s hard to give up on guys we’ve invested so heavily in, but if we’re willing to cash in on their league-wide value, here’s the deal:

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