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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

cowhide said:
when has DM asked to be traded let alone traded to NY!
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LogGrad98 said:
This. If i got the #1 pick I'd probably look at trading down to 3-5 and gaining assets and let someone else take the wemby gamble.
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The farthest I’d trade down would be to #2 to take Scoot. Anything other than that is utterly ridiculous.
 
Coach Ellis said:
Yeah. It’s a top 2 draft. Even with the risk, if you’re in the top two picks and walk away with someone other than Wemby or Scoot, you probably messed up.
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I think that GG and at least one of the Thompsons are going to challenge for the #2 pick. Scoot appears to be the front-runner though.

There's a chance that Nick Smith might at least get in the conversation too.
 
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LogGrad98 said:
Yeah not sure. I remain skeptical. The film I have seen is obviously cherry-picked and belies the stats. We'll see I guess. If we end up drafting him I will pray and cheer for him to be a combo of Jokic and Gobert. But I won't hold my breath for it.
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Totally agree with that. I do not understand the wibe around him. He is talented for sure, but at this stage of his carreer, he is not strong, can't shoot well. Far from NBA player. But yes he got a great potential but as many high draft players in the past who never made it..
 
Keefe said:
No. But he shot 20 something % from 3, not 41.8% like Dirk. And he did it in a lesser league.
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At around the same age, Dirk was beginning to get minutes and starting to play well in second division of German League.

Oh, he also shot %26 from 3 his last season before he came over.
 
Hekate said:
At around the same age, Dirk was beginning to get minutes and starting to play well in second division of German League.

Oh, he also shot %26 from 3 his last season before he came over.
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Dirk came over and his rookie year was the 1998-1999 season. In seven games in the Euro Championship in 1996 (I don’t see 1997), he shot 48.7%/29.2%/73.8% on 8.7 free throw attempts per game along with 6.3 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 2.0 steals.

Wemby’s shooting stats arent nearly as good. 41/28/68.5 on a laughable 1.25 free throw attempts per game. And that’s in the two leagues combined this past year. If you look at the Euroleague, his shooting stats are considerably worse. Dude is soft and gonna be a bust.
 
Hekate said:
At around the same age, Dirk was beginning to get minutes and starting to play well in second division of German League.
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Keefe said:
Dirk came over and his rookie year was the 1998-1999 season. In seven games in the Euro Championship in 1996 (I don’t see 1997), he shot 48.7%/29.2%/73.8% on 8.7 free throw attempts per game along with 6.3 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 2.0 steals.

Wemby’s shooting stats arent nearly as good. 41/28/68.5 on a laughable 1.25 free throw attempts per game. And that’s in the two leagues combined this past year. If you look at the Euroleague, his shooting stats are considerably worse. Dude is soft and gonna be a bust.
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That Euro Championship was an Under-18 tourney...

Euroleague is the second best in the world. Wemby is a kid playing against grown man.
 
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As far as the Wemby discussion goes, we'll know a lot more in a year. We'll have another year's worth of data before he's drafted. He's so tall and has such a high release that I'm not as concerned what level of competition is guarding him. It's really a matter of him getting the mechanics down and being consistent, which he doesn't seem too far away.
 
Does anyone know more details of the protections on the 2029 pick that the Wolves owe the Jazz? It is “top-5 protected”, but what if the pick falls in the top-5? Does it convey in a later year, or is that even allowed? Does it turn into 2nds? Does it just vanish? This is not exactly a small detail.
 
I really want to see us keep Vanderbilt and Beasly but the Jazz have grown so incredibly stagnant since the Rudy trade, it makes one think that all future moves are on hold until the Minnesota pieces can be moved in other deals
 
NUMBERICA said:
Does anyone know more details of the protections on the 2029 pick that the Wolves owe the Jazz? It is “top-5 protected”, but what if the pick falls in the top-5? Does it convey in a later year, or is that even allowed? Does it turn into 2nds? Does it just vanish? This is not exactly a small detail.
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We get their 2nd in 2029 if it doesn’t convey.
 
Hope the deal gets done soon, waiting to know who to cheer for stinks, and the whole vibe going into the season would be bad bad.

There's enough interested parties around the league to get a good price, don't let the perfect dream deal keep us from taking a good deal.
 
Eminence said:
Hope the deal gets done soon, waiting to know who to cheer for stinks, and the whole vibe going into the season would be bad bad.

There's enough interested parties around the league to get a good price, don't let the perfect dream deal keep us from taking a good deal.
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I’d be curious to hear people’s dream deal (let’s try and keep ‘em in the realm of possibility) as well as the minimum package people would accept.
 
margodydek said:
I’d be curious to hear people’s dream deal (let’s try and keep ‘em in the realm of possibility) as well as the minimum package people would accept.
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My original dream deal was getting #4 to draft Murray and future SAC picks, but he's probably shown out too much early for them to attach a bunch of picks, which is a bummer. Now it might be something with a bunch of picks from the Magic? I think it's still somewhat realistic to hope New York offers the farm, but I think you've got to put them on the clock to even get that possibility.

Minimum? Hard to know what teams are really offering, but I'd take Robinson/Herro/Jovic/2-3 picks from MIA and look to flip Herro elsewhere for another couple of picks.
 
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