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gregbroncs
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Why? He comes off of the bench for LA. He's far older than Millsap and he's on his last legs.
This.
Hopefully the FO is brave enough to take a 1 year break to do this and get a star 2-way SF we've all been waiting for.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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We need to somehow find a way to draft Jabari Parker. He as a Mormon would be the star most likely to want to stay in utah. If he really is a devout Mormon he'll feel right at home in Utah and not be much of a threat to want to leave for a big market. This is all assuming he has Allstar talent naturally.
If Favors is not good enough to displace Millsap by 2014-15, even if Millsap is still on the team, why do we want to get rid of Millsap? If Kanter is not good enough to displace Jefferson by 2015-16, even if Jefferson is still on the team, why do we want to get rid of Jefferson?
I have no problemj with letting both go or bringing both back. By 2015-16, our starting front court will be Favors-Kanter, regardless.
NAOS
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Your faith in Evans is heart warming. You think a second round pick will waltz in and be better than him? Lol.
Also, there is no guarantee that the quoted squad would be worse than this year's team.
Your post is saved by your mention of Burke. That would be rad.
I didn't type that, but he never said anything about a second round pick. He said with our second draft pick. We have two first round draft picks in this draft in addition to a second rounder. Ours and Golden States. He stated Trey Burke with one but the other first round pick he said second draft pick (probably Golden State's pick).
He's not on his last legs, and he has basically stated that he will demand a trade at the beginning of next season if his role remains the same.
b_line
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I felt like that earlier this year too. Now I am on the fence about keeping Sap. I think Favors and Kanter would kill it if they were getting over 30 minutes a game. They would probably both be all starts for a while. AND they play a style that would kick butt with Hayward in the same lineup. I think we would have a very good team without any of our current veterans.
gregbroncs
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Well these stats back up the eye test in saying that Al and Corbin are worthless and both need to go ASAP.
I'd bring back Millsap in a bench role or as a starter at the three. It might take a new coach to get that to happen.
I see it more likely that Utah will sign Jefferson, though on a 3-year deal, $34m. I don't think they have faith in starting Kanter and that will give them a few years to ease Kanter into the starting unit.
Allowing both Millsap and Jefferson to walk gets rid of all Utah's frontcourt depth.
I see it more likely that Utah will sign Jefferson, though on a 3-year deal, $34m. I don't think they have faith in starting Kanter and that will give them a few years to ease Kanter into the starting unit.
Allowing both Millsap and Jefferson to walk gets rid of all Utah's frontcourt depth.
Trade the lesser of the two first round picks for the expiring contract of Gasol, let Millsap and Jefferson walk. Start Gasol at center with Favors at PF and have Gasol mentor Kanter for a season. Bring in other young players and veterans on minimum salary deals and have a true rebuilding year to see what you got.
No truer words.
gregbroncs
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On the other hand signing even one of them destroy's any chance of all of the core 4 from remaining with the team. I hope they are not stupid enough to bring either of them back. Front court depth can be obtained without failed experiments.
I would sign Carroll and let the rest of the vets walk. There is no way I want to give big contracts to AJ/Millsap/Mo WIlliams because I want the Jazz to be able to sign their core 4 plus the young guys from the next two drafts. Under contract next year, Hayward, Kanter, Favors, Marvin, Murphy, Evans, Burks, 3 picks and then fill the squad with solid vets that don't need big contracts. Of course the Jazz will take a step back which is fine with me, this will set us up for the 2014 draft to hopefully get a superstar. The the Jazz will be setup for the next 10 years and win 2-3 championships. LOL.
green
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I don't like a lot of what you have said. Foye is a good, valuable player. If you can get him for 2.5 million, you keep him.
Hayward is light years better than Burks right now. He should be starting at the beginning of LAST season.
This is what you do:
#1, #2, #3: Get a new coach. The sooner the better.
Try to get Calderon for a good price. If you can get him for 5 mill per, you take it and run.
Draft a pg.
You are already set at sg.
Resign DeMare.
Sign Hickson or Landry or some other effective big (Gray).
This is where you sit:
Stan Van Gundy - coach
Calderon/Burke/some other new pg
Hayward/Burk/Murphy or Leslie
Williams/Carroll
Favors/Hickson/Evans
Kanter/Gray
This gives you some good, minute eating gritty guys, but places the team squarely in Hayward's and Kanter's hands. It allows you to also play Favors and Burks a lot.
It also doesn't tie you up long term, so if that perfect trade comes along, you can move players and make this team a contender. If the team struggles, you try to get Jabari.
green
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Winner. Millsap isn't worth 12+ million a year. Especially if you have Kanter and Favors on your team. You have to let BOTH walk. If you bring Millsap back at 12 million you are tying up close to 1/4 of your payroll with Millsap. He isn't worth that.
Keeping Hayward has nothing to do with being better than Burks. It is where Hayward excells at the most. One of the few things I think Ty has right.
Saying number 1,2 and 3 is get a new coach is no different than where I called for a new coach.
I said resign Demarre and so did you.
I didn't suggest getting a SG and neither did you.
I said go after a PG and so did you.
So basically your only differences are:
Sign a PF other than Sap.
Start Hayward over Burks
Get crappy people for next year, like Calderon, so that we can tread water for another year.
Hartsock
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Yep, Haywayd is much better off the bench, this might change when he isn't playing with Al and Paul but I still like the idea of having a really good scorer playing with the 2nd unit