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King Cy said:
I think the opinion of hindsight saying a player should have shot it is ridiculous. The funny part is that the player everyone was calling for (Burks) got the ball the very next possession and got a layup blocked. If Hayward hits the jumper, or Burks makes the layup, the Jazz win the game (if all else stays constant). So neither player made their clutch shot, so people start saying "Favors should have taken the shot".

It's all hindsight. Both Hayward and Burks had good looks, they just missed.
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Point taken. Indeed, they were good looks
 
KD's Framily said:
Good lord man. Did you even bother to check the distances on the results?

Learn how to run a simple query and try again.
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Distance?

Gordon Hayward misses 11-foot step back jumpshot. That is what ESPN called the shot in question.

https://nbasavant.com/shot_search.p...de_desc&hfGT=0|&ddlShotMade=&ddlMin=0#results

2/2 on the year last year for that specific distance.

https://nbasavant.com/shot_search.p...de_desc&hfGT=0|&ddlShotMade=&ddlMin=0#results

I even looked at that distance on the left side of the court where the Winslow shot came.

1/1

What other made up stories you got?
 
King Cy said:
Distance?

Gordon Hayward misses 11-foot step back jumpshot. That is what ESPN called the shot in question.

https://nbasavant.com/shot_search.p...de_desc&hfGT=0|&ddlShotMade=&ddlMin=0#results

2/2 on the year last year for that specific distance.

https://nbasavant.com/shot_search.p...de_desc&hfGT=0|&ddlShotMade=&ddlMin=0#results

I even looked at that distance on the left side of the court where the Winslow shot came.

1/1

What other made up stories you got?
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... So let me get this straight.

After arguing that Hayward was money on those shots all last season, you pulled exactly two shots from the entirety of last season. On one the defender was 5 feet away, and on the other the defender was 2 feet away and Jeremy Lin. And instead of concluding that something was wrong with your query, you decided that you were right.

Maybe querying isn't for you.
 
KD's Framily said:
... So let me get this straight.

After arguing that Hayward was money on those shots all last season, you pulled exactly two shots from the entirety of last season. On one the defender was 5 feet away, and on the other the defender was 2 feet away and Jeremy Lin. And instead of concluding that something was wrong with your query, you decided that you were right.

Maybe querying isn't for you.
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You can look at that website all you want. I put up numbers of searches on here. Hayawrd was money step backs and fadeaways last year. You were wrong. You didnt watch Jazz games.
 
King Cy said:
https://nbasavant.com/shot_search.p...de_desc&hfGT=0|&ddlShotMade=&ddlMin=0#results

I expanded it to 8-15 feet to get a general feel for him in short to intermediate midrange area.

8 of 10.


Keep making those lies. You didnt watch the Jazz last year.
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Dude. The shots you are querying do not fit the criteria of the Winslow shot. Just take one look at the defender distances. Every single one of them the defender was 3 feet away or further except for the one over poor Jeremy Lin.

Learn to query.
 
Thought the Jazz would win this game....but looking at the box score the game was poorly played and virtually unwatchable! More turnovers than assists....and poor shooting by both teams. And why is this guy named "Hood" shooting 3 pointers anyway? Turrible shooter according to the box score!
 
KD's Framily said:
Dude. The shots you are querying do not fit the criteria of the Winslow shot. Just take one look at the defender distances.

Learn to query.
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Is there even a shot just like the one on Winslow?

I put "step back jumper" shot distance "10-11 feet" defender distance 0-1. 2/2 popped. You were wrong and now you are trying to argue minute details about exact location.
 
King Cy said:
Anyone with eyeballs and a brain that holds memories knows that Hayward was a stepback/fadeaway machine last year.
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If I was arguing that Hayward shouldn't be taking fadeaways or step backs at all maybe your pointless querying of all of his shots would've meant something.

It's a tightly contested fadeaway that I'm saying is a bad shot. You queried virtually nothing but stepbacks and fadeaways where the defender was at least 3 feet away.

Just go pull up all your queries again and look at the defender distances. This shouldn't be that difficult.
 
KD's Framily said:
If I was arguing that Hayward shouldn't be taking fadeaways or step backs at all maybe your pointless querying of all of his shots would've meant something.

It's a tightly contested fadeaway that I'm saying is a bad shot. You queried virtually nothing but stepbacks and fadeaways where the defender was at least 3 feet away.

Just go pull up all your queries again and look at the defender distances. This shouldn't be that difficult.
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Bud just take the L. Hayward was a fadeaway/step back king last year. You denied. You are either a Hayward denier, have memory loss, or dont watch Jazz games.
 
spycam1 said:
Statistically, it's been very similar to CJ numbers. Stylistically, they're not exactly the same, but he definitely plays more like CJ than any of our other wings.

The point is that Hood is in a major slump to start the year.
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I agree that cj is a good comp for hood so far this season.
Luckily we how much better hood is than cj by watching him play last year
 
Who even cares what Hayward shot last season? All that matters is he was shooting horrendously in the second half, while Burks (and Favors to an extent) had the hot hand. You adapt to the situation..
 
King Cy said:
Bud just take the L. Hayward was a fadeaway/step back king last year. You denied. You are either a Hayward denier, have memory loss, or dont watch Jazz games.
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I never once said he didn't have a good step back jumper. What you are doing is essentially the same thing as saying that Alec Burks would be correct in dribbling out the clock before taking a tightly contested 3 with a hand in his face because he has shot well from 3 this season.

There's uhh, kind of a big variable that you're overlooking.
 
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