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Utah teacher shoots herself in the leg at elementary school

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I think there is a small amount of validity to the idea of having armed personnel in schools. But allowing regular old whoever the **** to carry a gun around other peoples kids is just ****ing dumb. I don't want my kids, although they are still in my balls, to be around someone I don't know or trust with a gun, and neither should you. Because stupid **** like this will happen and one day a 1st grader will take a gut shot during social studies.

https://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58402182-78/horsley-teacher-elementary-district.html.csp

A Taylorsville elementary school teacher somehow shot herself in the leg while in the school restroom.

The woman, who was not immediately identified, was in a restroom at Westbrook Elementary School (3451 W. 6200 South) on Thursday morning when her handgun went off, said Ben Horsley, spokesman of Granite School District.


The gunshot occurred a little before 9 a.m., before school started. No students were around when it occurred, Horsley said.

The bullet entered and exited her leg, and she was taken to the hospital.

Granite School District police are still investigating how the handgun discharged.

The teacher — a concealed carry permit holder — was allowed to have the weapon on campus per school district policy, Horsley said.

Classes are proceeding as normal as they can, Horsley said. A substitute has been brought in for the teacher’s class, though Horsley declined to say which grade she teaches.
 
I think there is a small amount of validity to the idea of having armed personnel in schools. But allowing regular old whoever the **** to carry a gun around other peoples kids is just ****ing dumb. I don't want my kids, although they are still in my balls, to be around someone I don't know or trust with a gun, and neither should you. Because stupid **** like this will happen and one day a 1st grader will take a gut shot during social studies.

https://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58402182-78/horsley-teacher-elementary-district.html.csp

that does it. BAN Teachers
 
I am not opposed to the idea of armed personel at schools. I do not like the idea of every teacher having one though.

Perhaps one in a safe in the principals office that 2-3 the principal and assistants know the code for.

or

The idea I like even better is having 1-2 trained, armed officers at every school. Most communities almost do this full time already. I know that the cops here visit each school several times a day. Especially when school starts and ends. Then they tend to patrol the school bus routes.
 
The idea I like even better is having 1-2 trained, armed officers at every school. Most communities almost do this full time already. I know that the cops here visit each school several times a day. Especially when school starts and ends. Then they tend to patrol the school bus routes.

Sounds good. That way they can do this:

https://dailycaller.com/2014/09/11/...chool-girl-who-wanted-to-keep-her-cell-phone/
Super-Tough Cops Take Down 70-Pound High School Girl Who Wanted To Keep Her Cell Phone

Two Houston, Texas school district police officers pinned a 15-year-old girl face down on the floor on Tuesday because she didn’t want to relinquish her cell phone to an assistant principal.

The girl, sophomore Ixel Perez, weighs 70 pounds, according to her brother. She attends Sam Houston High School.

In a video of the incident, one of the cops who tackled the girl can be seen ramming his knee into the side of her head, reports local CBS affiliate KHOU.

The incident happened after the teacher in Perez’s reading class busted her using a cell phone in class.

Student cell phone use is prohibited at Sam Houston High. Students caught using cell phones are required to give their phones to school officials. They must then pay a fine at the end of the day to get their phones back.

The reading teacher ordered her to leave the classroom and go into the hallway.

Once Perez was standing in the hallway, an assistant principal approached her and demanded that she give up her phone. Perez said she wanted to keep her phone because her mother was having medical problems.

When Perez tried to walk away, the assistant principal called the police. Because of a cell phone.

Three cops from the Houston Independent School District’s police force showed up shortly thereafter. Two campus cops participated in the takedown. A third stood around and watched his colleagues.

“Both of the cops just tackled her down to the floor,” said another student, Gustavo Lucio, to a KHOU reporter. Ironically, Gustavo filmed the incident with his own cell phone.

“They put her knee on her head and after that they just arrested her, took her phone,” Gustavo explained. “The cop just said you can’t use your phone and after that, no words no nothing, just actions, grabbed her, threw her down.”

Perez, who was still an emotional wreck, discussed the incident on Wednesday morning as she stood outside the school with her mother and brother by her side.

“It was embarrassing,” she said.

“I just didn’t want to give up my phone,” she added. “She asked me for the phone and I didn’t want to give it to her, because I was scared. I ended up walking down the stairs trying to get away.”

Perez also noted that she was speaking with her mother when the police officers accosted her.

“One grabbed my hand. I didn’t want to let go of my phone because I was on the phone with mom,” she told KHOU.

“We all know it was wrong,” Perez’s brother, Chris Cardenas, told the station. “It doesn’t take three cops to take down one teenage girl.”

The school district issued a statement about the incident, saying: “The safety of our students at Sam Houston High School and of all our schools is always our absolute top priority. The HISD police department and the school’s administration are continuing their investigations of what led to the detainment of a female student yesterday.”

The Perez family has indicated that the sophomore will no longer attend Sam Houston High.

Follow Eric on Twitter and on Facebook, and send education-related story tips to erico@dailycaller.com.

Actually, I'm not opposed to the idea in principle. I just fear for society when things like that can and do happen.
 
I am not opposed to the idea of armed personel at schools. I do not like the idea of every teacher having one though.

Perhaps one in a safe in the principals office that 2-3 the principal and assistants know the code for.

or

The idea I like even better is having 1-2 trained, armed officers at every school. Most communities almost do this full time already. I know that the cops here visit each school several times a day. Especially when school starts and ends. Then they tend to patrol the school bus routes.

The problem with having 1-2 trained officers is that a shooter will know to go after the cop(s) first leaving the rest of the school defenseless. I do like the idea of a few highly secured safes in strategic locations that trained teachers can access in an emergency. Rather than focusing on guns, I think schools should have good emergency plans in place, with multiple emergency exits in the schools.
 
Sounds good. That way they can do this:

https://dailycaller.com/2014/09/11/...chool-girl-who-wanted-to-keep-her-cell-phone/


Actually, I'm not opposed to the idea in principle. I just fear for society when things like that can and do happen.

This one to me is as much the principal's fault as anyone elses. Ask the student to come into your office and talk about it. All of a sudden "no-tolerance" policies are all the rage and almost always are bad in actual application. You cannot no-tolerance everything for long before you have no option but to implement a complete police state. We need administrators who are capable of administrating without immediately resorting to police action to control every single situation. If a principal or vice-principal cannot have a conversation with a student about the cell phone policy and find a resolution without calling the police then that person should no longer be a principal. That is a pretty basic thing and it is ridiculous we would pay someone principal-money who cannot handle such a basic situation without police involvement.
 
Require teachers to keep the clip out of the gun(but still on their person) and keep the chamber empty. Offer extra training for teachers that carry.

problem solved?
 
I am not opposed to the idea of armed personel at schools. I do not like the idea of every teacher having one though.

Perhaps one in a safe in the principals office that 2-3 the principal and assistants know the code for.

or

The idea I like even better is having 1-2 trained, armed officers at every school. Most communities almost do this full time already. I know that the cops here visit each school several times a day. Especially when school starts and ends. Then they tend to patrol the school bus routes.
At my school we had 2 armed cops patrolling the halls at all times. Yet that school had the rep of being one of the most dangerous ones around.

Having the cops there actually made me feel less safe
 
At my school we had 2 armed cops patrolling the halls at all times. Yet that school had the rep of being one of the most dangerous ones around.

Having the cops there actually made me feel less safe

Maybe it was because having the cops there validated that it was a "bad" school so that is why it made you feel less safe. Like "holy crap we must be in a seriously dangerous school if they have to have cops here all the time". I think that if it were the norm everywhere it wouldn't have that affect anymore.
 
At my school we had 2 armed cops patrolling the halls at all times. Yet that school had the rep of being one of the most dangerous ones around.

Having the cops there actually made me feel less safe

I think they meant officers at the school in case the school got attacked, not that 2 officers could keep Kearns from Kearns'ing.


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I am totally, 100% opposed to having guns in public schools. The odds of some kind of attack on a any given school are so astronomically remote that it simply is not worth the risk the having guns in schools--potentially accessible to students and other untrained persons. I'd bet the farm that were guns to become commonplace in schools, we'd soon be reading all sorts of stories of accidental discharges, non-lethal disputes suddenly turning lethal, teachers or administrators going all Rambo like on children, students stealing guns etc. The likelihood of such events occurring, in my opinion, are significantly higher than the likelihood of an attack.

I simply don't see it as a cost-feasible option to place armed police, or private guards, or to employ routine police patrols at schools as a general solution.

'Solving' an extremely low probability catastrophe by replacing it with a much more likely catastrophe doesn't strike me as a rational solution at all.
 
We need to fix mental healthcare as a nation/society. Until we do this thing will not decrease and we definitely have no chance of making it go away.
 
Maybe it was because having the cops there validated that it was a "bad" school so that is why it made you feel less safe. Like "holy crap we must be in a seriously dangerous school if they have to have cops here all the time". I think that if it were the norm everywhere it wouldn't have that affect anymore.

the more cops i see the less safe i feel
 
I am totally, 100% opposed to having guns in public schools. The odds of some kind of attack on a any given school are so astronomically remote that it simply is not worth the risk the having guns in schools--potentially accessible to students and other untrained persons. I'd bet the farm that were guns to become commonplace in schools, we'd soon be reading all sorts of stories of accidental discharges, non-lethal disputes suddenly turning lethal, teachers or administrators going all Rambo like on children, students stealing guns etc. The likelihood of such events occurring, in my opinion, are significantly higher than the likelihood of an attack.

I simply don't see it as a cost-feasible option to place armed police, or private guards, or to employ routine police patrols at schools as a general solution.

'Solving' an extremely low probability catastrophe by replacing it with a much more likely catastrophe doesn't strike me as a rational solution at all.
I agree
 
I think they meant officers at the school in case the school got attacked, not that 2 officers could keep Kearns from Kearns'ing.


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Lol
 
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