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Utah Trade Deadline Discussion

Thee jazz fan said:
If Favors were to go to DL and say he wants back with the jazz, would that be better or worse for the jazz. I do like having one of Favors or Gobert in the game at all times.


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If Favors stays (which even I think can work depending on rotations and Favors' contract), Burks and/or Hood would probably need to go. I doubt we can afford to keep all three unless we intend on going well into the luxury for 2018-19.
 
SCS said:
The Jazz can't stand pat at the deadline. Re-signing Hood and/or Favors would be a mistake. Letting Hood and Favors walk for nothing would be a mistake. Given that, moves must be made. It doesn't really matter if we've had a short stretch of success.
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But they will stand pat. We need to see what we have when were healthy line again.....
 
Favors is here till the summer and we lose him for nothing. Rodney will sign a good offer sheet and the Jazz will match. We try to sign Niko, but he gets a more lucrative offer and were stuck with the same team minus Favors. Hope I'm wrong. I usually am.
 
LoPo said:
If Favors stays (which even I think can work depending on rotations and Favors' contract), Burks and/or Hood would probably need to go. I doubt we can afford to keep all three unless we intend on going well into the luxury for 2018-19.
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Personally, I'd like to see us keep Favors and trade Hood. I think Favors is more valuable to the success of the jazz winning games, and see Hood as a more valuable asset to bring in a player or pick or both. Even if we keep Favors, I'd like to see us get someone like Niko.


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hgb said:
How does that add up? If he takes 12-ish rebounds and shoot 0 shots? Well, except steals I suppose.
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I am not quite sure, those are the numbers posted on NBA tracking. I am sure rebounds is a part of it. I am guessing inbound plays are a part of that, along with turnovers. I am sure there are other situations. His is a fairly normalish ratio for Forwards.
 
NAOS said:
dude, you've been around a lot. You know there are about 3 or 4 distinct acts of dumbassery he is capable of. He'll always have at least one.
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If brainstorming ideas to improve our beloved Jazz is dumbassery, I am the biggest dumbass in here. When drowning, I always try to stay afloat rather than complain about the water.
 
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I will settle for just not losing Favors for nothing at this point. Jazz absolutely need to be proactive. This is why teams stockpile expiring contracts, and the Jazz aren't very asset-rich.
 
This guy is a reporter who is quoting sources:
Ryan McDonald @ryanwmcdonald
about 44 minutes ago

Atlanta, Boston and Philadelphia are the teams that have multiple first-round picks both this year and next. All three have been mentioned as possible destinations for Rodney Hood. Seems like any of them are in position to be involved with a Nikola Mirotic deal
 
If the Jazz can't move Rodney I might be tempted to risk him getting a crazy offer and just match it and THEN trade him when he'll have a lot more value next year. Rodney on a 3 or 4 year deal for around 12 million would be a really good trade chip. There's not a ton of money out there and it's possible he won't get a huge deal. This assumes the Jazz are looking more toward 2019 for any bigger FA splash. Favors is a different situation. I think you definitely need to move him and JJ before the deadline. If you can get a first round pick for Hood I'd do that too.
 
Quin's Murderface said:
If the Jazz can't move Rodney I might be tempted to risk him getting a crazy offer and just match it and THEN trade him when he'll have a lot more value next year. Rodney on a 3 or 4 year deal for around 12 million would be a really good trade chip. There's not a ton of money out there and it's possible he won't get a huge deal. This assumes the Jazz are looking more toward 2019 for any bigger FA splash. Favors is a different situation. I think you definitely need to move him and JJ before the deadline. If you can get a first round pick for Hood I'd do that too.
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I think the problem we have is a repeating pattern of:

Training camp: We'll move them at the deadline when they have value to a contender.
Deadline: We'll move them on draft night.
Draft night: We'll move them when FA opens up.
Training camp: We'll move them at the deadline when they're a valuable expiring.
Deadline: They'll be more valuable after we re-sign them and we can move them at the deadline.
 
infection said:
I think the problem we have is a repeating pattern of:

Training camp: We'll move them at the deadline when they have value to a contender.
Deadline: We'll move them on draft night.
Draft night: We'll move them when FA opens up.
Training camp: We'll move them at the deadline when they're a valuable expiring.
Deadline: They'll be more valuable after we re-sign them and we can move them at the deadline.
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Oh I agree I would be frustrated. But I'd rather not make a trade just to make one. I still think it's likely that Hood has a good enough market that he'll be gone. I'm just saying that I can see the logic in waiting it out so that he recoups his value some more. He is a good player who will put up numbers that other teams will be interested in. It's a risk if he gets a huge offer. Let's just hope they can move him for something worthwhile this week.
 
tonstermits said:
I think many people would be upset if the Jazz choose to not trade anyone due to recent success and then the team starts losing again after the deadline.
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I agree 100%.

I just don't see how Burks and JoeJ fit into the long term narrative of our Jazz. Then there is Hood who seems to be halfway out already. Favors is up for debate, the other three not so much.

If those 3 guys are considered expendable, we have $24 million of contracts we can deal right now -
- JoeJ $10.5 expiring
- Burks $10.85 this year, $11.5 next
- Hood $2.4 UFA

All three of those are "tradeable" contracts. They don't come with that much risk. All three guys can contribute.
 
This was probably brought up yesterday but I missed it. Is there any reason why the following trade doesn't work?

Pelicans get: Derrick Favors
Bulls get: Omer Asik and the Pelicans 1st
Jazz get: Nikola Mirotic

The Pelicans want a serviceable big to help keep them in the playoff hunt with Boogie out. But they don't want to be locked into the second year Mirotic has with his team option. So they get Favors instead.

The Bulls get the 1st round pick that they want for Mirotic.

The Jazz get the stretch 4 they want and are fine with the Bulls picking up his team option for next year before he's dealt.

Mirotic gets his contract picked up like he wants and he ends up in his preferred destination.

Seems like a win-win-win-win for all parties. The only thing I can think of is maybe NO doesn't want Favs for whatever reason?
 
Quin's Murderface said:
Oh I agree I would be frustrated. But I'd rather not make a trade just to make one. I still think it's likely that Hood has a good enough market that he'll be gone. I'm just saying that I can see the logic in waiting it out so that he recoups his value some more. He is a good player who will put up numbers that other teams will be interested in. It's a risk if he gets a huge offer. Let's just hope they can move him for something worthwhile this week.
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I think that's a common narrative that comes up, though (not from you, just in general), about "not making a trade just to make a trade." There are often valid reasons to make a trade and many not-valid, and the FO (under KOC, really) pushed back saying he wouldn't make a trade to make a trade. I'm not desperate for a trade -- but I am desperate for us to make a move to pick up a stretch four and there's really only one available right now. Favors should be moved, even if it's for a second round pick, but I'm not certain how optimistic I am about any moves happening, really.
 
There will be a move but I think we are holding out for best return. Likely have fall back deals in place.

With all the injuries it makes sense to wait. Favs would not have been a great add for NO last week but now he would be very important.

Patience is good as long as our trade assets stay healthy.
 
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