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infection said:
It's a cap-clearing move.
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yeah, I just think they could have stretched Asik rather than paying a 1st or even wait until the draft/offseason when he basically becomes an expiring. I get why both teams would do it, particularly NO if they wanted to resign Boggie (while remaining competitive)

On the other hand, I'm a bit surprised talks got that far. As an expiring Niko could veto any trade. Furthermore, it was reported he gave the Bulls a list of teams he was willing to play for.

Bulls GM: great! we had a deal in place
Pelicans GM: are you sure he is OK with you declining his option?
Bulls GM: yeah, sure. Just let me call his agent...
...uh, ummm, he said 'no'
hello? are you still there??? .....​

I'm wondering if the Bulls are the ones leaking the info, putting pressure on other teams that a 1st was on the table. At the end of the day, guys like Woj are just part of the game, and in exchange they get exclusive information. I hope the Jazz exercise patience and call the bluff. Eventually we can also get Niko as a FA.
 
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Some of you act like stretching a contact is such an easy thing to do. $3+ per year for 5 years is a pain. Look at Detroit, they have to pay Josh Smith $5 per year until 2020-21 and it really hurts their ability to have quality depth.

It is a guarantee that $3+ per year will be frowned upon for 5 years. That is a certainty. A pick in the late teens being worth it in the end is not.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y94xmvlx

Here is my final deal. We take Ajinca and Mirotic and give up Favs and Jerebko. NO can decide whether or not to waive Jerebko... he's another solid rotation player for them this year. They get off of Ajinca and Asik. Bulls get the same damn deal they were going to get. We get our guy but hurt our cap space that we were never going to use next year.
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Another variation would be Jerebko to Chicago and Holiday to NO... Jrue and Justin would love to play together and give NO cheap wing help. We still get Ajinca which sucks.
 
SCS said:
Because for us he wouldn't be a rental. He'd be someone we'd have on a good contract until 2019 and then be able to re-sign. He'd be a long-term answer for the stretch 4 role that we've desperately needed filled for a loooooooooonnnnnngggggggg time.
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lol
 
LoPo said:
Some of you act like stretching a contact is such an easy thing to do. $3+ per year for 5 years is a pain. Look at Detroit, they have to pay Josh Smith $5 per year until 2020-21 and it really hurts their ability to have quality depth.

It is a guarantee that $3+ per year will be frowned upon for 5 years. That is a certainty. A pick in the late teens being worth it in the end is not.
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3M of a 108M - 110M cap is basically a minimum contract. If you are the Pelicans and that extra $8M means 16M in tax then it's an easy sell. Chicago would likely not waive, but as strapped as NO is I would think they'd try to move Hill and stretch Asik. Not sure they can move Hill.
 
To lighten the mood...

A Mexican magician tells the audience he will disappear on the count of 3. He says, "uno, dos..." *poof* ...
...
He disappeared without a tres.
 
LoPo said:
To lighten the mood...

A Mexican magician tells the audience he will disappear on the count of 3. He says, "uno, dos..." *poof* ...
...
He disappeared without a tres.
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Can someone tell me where the unlike button went?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
3M of a 108M - 110M cap is basically a minimum contract. If you are the Pelicans and that extra $8M means 16M in tax then it's an easy sell. Chicago would likely not waive, but as strapped as NO is I would think they'd try to move Hill and stretch Asik. Not sure they can move Hill.
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You are right. It's small, but not insignificant. If it was easy, New Orleans would have done it by now.
 
LoPo said:
You are right. It's small, but not insignificant. If it was easy, New Orleans would have done it by now.
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They would obviously wait until the last day to do it considering you pay his current years salary no matter what. Doing it last year means you would have paid nearly $4 million for 7 years.

It's simple, they'll stretch him this season if they don't move him. Tacking him on to a deal in which you acquire Mirotic makes even more sense. Simply offloading Asik and giving up a 1st does not make sense.
 
I don't know if we're going to be able to handle another two weeks of this. Hoping DL can make a solid trade soon so we can all overdose on a rush of trade endorphins.
 
Is Asik and a pick that will fall in the teens worth the cost of $25 million? I hate that we'd handicap ourselves so much.

I'd entertain Asik and Ajinca for two #1's if NO is intent on going all out for Davis.
 
NUMBERICA said:
You take Shumpert to get that first.
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I'd do Favors for Shumpert and the Cleveland 1st. If Hood was part of the deal I would want the Brooklyn pick as now the Cavs shed Shumpert's salary and could play Hood at SG and Favors at C. Though I think the Cavs are going to do everything they can do to move J.R. Smith and TT. Though doing either will definitely cost them. They're lucky to have that Brooklyn pick and I'll be surprised if they don't trade it in a salary dump.
 
kabenac said:
I'd do Favors for Shumpert and the Cleveland 1st. If Hood was part of the deal I would want the Brooklyn pick as now the Cavs shed Shumpert's salary and could play Hood at SG and Favors at C. Though I think the Cavs are going to do everything they can do to move J.R. Smith and TT. Though doing either will definitely cost them. They're lucky to have that Brooklyn pick and I'll be surprised if they don't trade it in a salary dump.
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Cavs are intent on keeping Brooklyn's pick unless they are getting a star in return. That team could entirely blow up next year.
 
Avery said:
Cavs are intent on keeping Brooklyn's pick unless they are getting a star in return. That team could entirely blow up next year.
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I'm trying to think of how we could do a trade with them with them that's good for both teams that would match up. Argh.
 
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