Utah Trade Deadline Discussion
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Knowledgeofmine
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PEeop!e Overvalue jazz players on this board. Hood for Stsnley Johnson Straight Up the Pistons Would never bite on
I'd do this ----
** Jazz trade Favors and Hood.
** Jazz receive Shumpert and right to swap 2018 1st-rd picks with CLE's Brooklyn pick.
** Cavs and Jazz both place top-4 protections on their respective 1st-round picks.
** As of today, the Jazz's pick would be #11 or #12 and the Cavs' BK pick is #8.
Why for Jazz: They're not committed to paying Favors or Hood their market in free agency. Trade them out for a chance to move up into the top 8 of the 2018 draft (e.g., Porter, Jackson, Sexton).
Why for the Cavs: Get a 2-way big for the POs (especially to match up with Draymond), get a quality wing scorer who rebounds and defends adequately, keep bird rights on Favs and matching rights on Hood, move Shumpert's salary, and stay in the lottery of the 2018 draft. Without Favors or Hood, the Jazz would be expected to miss the playoffs and draft 10 - 12 (e.g., Bridges, Bridges, Carter, Knox).
** Jazz trade Favors and Hood.
** Jazz receive Shumpert and right to swap 2018 1st-rd picks with CLE's Brooklyn pick.
** Cavs and Jazz both place top-4 protections on their respective 1st-round picks.
** As of today, the Jazz's pick would be #11 or #12 and the Cavs' BK pick is #8.
Why for Jazz: They're not committed to paying Favors or Hood their market in free agency. Trade them out for a chance to move up into the top 8 of the 2018 draft (e.g., Porter, Jackson, Sexton).
Why for the Cavs: Get a 2-way big for the POs (especially to match up with Draymond), get a quality wing scorer who rebounds and defends adequately, keep bird rights on Favs and matching rights on Hood, move Shumpert's salary, and stay in the lottery of the 2018 draft. Without Favors or Hood, the Jazz would be expected to miss the playoffs and draft 10 - 12 (e.g., Bridges, Bridges, Carter, Knox).
If the Jazz could somehow trade for Aaron Gordon I'd be all for it. 22 years old and he's already averaging 18 PPG. His potential is immense. I think the Jazz coaching and development could really bring the best out of him. A core of Donovan, Rudy and Aaron Gordon would be scary. We have Donovan for the next 7/8 years. Rudy is under contract. So paying Aaron the max or near max is risky but it's not putting all of our eggs in one basket. I'd be down. I don't think it happens. But I'd definitely be down.
LoPo
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Who is this knowledgeofmine punk using incorrect grammar to take shots at people?
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The rumor is that the Pistons want Hood and have been trying to get the Jazz to take Johnson. That's the Piston's offer, not something the Jazz would propose.
LoPo
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LoPo
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The Pistons would take a straight swap of Hood for Johnson in a heartbeat. Hood is a proven NBA scorer. Johnson is nothing but an unproven raw prospect who has put up Gleague worthy numbers thus far in his career.
Coach Ellis
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I agree with this - which is why I think the Jazz should try to make it more appealing to Orlando by being willing to take back Fournier and/or Biyambo. Give them a relatively clean slate cap wise, but lock up two starters that fit our timeline for at least 3 years. I’d be interested in seeing AG and Fournier as 2nd/3rd options with a deep bench behind them.
Alright, let's talk about Biyombo.
You'd be paying $17 million annually for strictly a backup to Gobert. ******. However, I think he'd be a pretty good backup and decent insurance in situations where Gobert goes down with injury. If you land on a PF/C that is better, you either are just sitting on Biyombo or not playing whoever that player is.
But lineups with Biyombo at the 5 you can switch everything. Still a very good rebounder and shot blocker. Competent free throw shooter, doesn't attempt field goals that aren't worth attempting.
It's a ****ing steep price, but I'd seriously consider it if the Jazz keep their finances in order otherwise (which would mean Hood, Favors, and maybe Exum are gone). And yeah, I want Fournier too.
You'd be paying $17 million annually for strictly a backup to Gobert. ******. However, I think he'd be a pretty good backup and decent insurance in situations where Gobert goes down with injury. If you land on a PF/C that is better, you either are just sitting on Biyombo or not playing whoever that player is.
But lineups with Biyombo at the 5 you can switch everything. Still a very good rebounder and shot blocker. Competent free throw shooter, doesn't attempt field goals that aren't worth attempting.
It's a ****ing steep price, but I'd seriously consider it if the Jazz keep their finances in order otherwise (which would mean Hood, Favors, and maybe Exum are gone). And yeah, I want Fournier too.
Brsn
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I'd prefer us giving something along the lines of Favors and Hood for Canning Frye, Cedi Osman, and Cleveland's first round pick. With a little extra salary dump on Cleveland's side it works. We get a young project, a stretch 4, and an extra first round pick.
Douchebag K
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The stench of missed opportunity I fear is going to gather over the next 12-18 months
These dudes don’t grow on trees.
LifeOnaPlate
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Deals don't always happen just because one side wants them to, though.
We’re talking about a very specific deal that didn’t happen because of us, not them.
Douchebag K
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Clearly we could have had him if we wanted to pay the price
There better be a plan B.
Plan B is “for sure we’re drafting a stud at 15.”
Nuance isn't your strong suit.
No, you can't take back both
We’ll talk nuance next Thursday afternoon. Looking forward to hearing all about it.