Utah Trade Deadline Discussion

[Saint Cy of JFC]

What about a Mitchell/Hood backcourt though?

Deciding on your basketball team's construct is like finishing a term paper. Most people wait til the last moment. Deciding on Hood is like turning your paper in a week early. Trading Hood and deciding on Rubio in 2019 gives you an extra week of procrastination.

 

[MDAV28]

Yeh, its possible. It's also possible he gets an Evan Fournier contract and you suddenly cant trade him without taking back a ****** contract because half the NBA is ****** contracts now.

But I think there's value in waiting it out, especially compared to getting a low-tier asset in return.

I'm ok with trading Hood for a decent 1st rounder (straight up that is, or for expiring money to match), but if the offers are less than that, as in require another one of our assets or take on an iffy contract then I just wait and see what Hood gets offered this offseason and if it's too much it's too much and he walks.

 

[mellow]

Wait, Hood is quoted saying "His gut tells him...." and there are no jokes.

This is a travesty.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeh, its possible. It's also possible he gets an Evan Fournier contract and you suddenly cant trade him without taking back a ****** contract because half the NBA is ****** contracts now.

Hood and Evan are close to being worth that money... but Hood has the injury issues which gives me real pause.

Unless you get a superstar in FA almost all big FA acquisitions will be overpriced... bidding drives the market up.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If he is locked into his contract he may be fine coming off the bench or at least warm to the idea. I think a rotation of Rubio, DM, Evan, Ingles, Royce is diverse and has some interchangeableness (not a word). If Exum is healthy we have a lot of options 1-3... with Royce playing small ball 4 sometimes.

If the cost is AB and a second I'd do it... I doubt they would take it unless they think Evan helps them win too much this year.

It's not about him being fine with it. It the same thing with Hood. Why spend that money on a 6th man when you can put it in your starting lineup? Having Fournier on the books might interfere with being able to extend Rubio or sign some other UFA in 2019.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Wait, Hood is quoted saying "His gut tells him...." and there are no jokes.

This is a travesty.

Damn it... everyone go home and try to be better tomorrow.

 

[mellow]

I just read this quote from Mario Hezonja:

"I mean, I’m not on Twitter, I barely use Instagram, so I’m not swiping, I’m not a typical athlete nowadays. “I’m really focused on basketball, that’s why I’m here in America, so I really don’t care about anything else.”

Sounds like he might fit in.

 

[elan_prodigy]

Wait, Hood is quoted saying "His gut tells him...." and there are no jokes.

This is a travesty.

Place and time I guess. Or just being decent.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Hood and Evan are close to being worth that money... but Hood has the injury issues which gives me real pause.

Unless you get a superstar in FA almost all big FA acquisitions will be overpriced... bidding drives the market up.

I mean, yeah, neither is a terrible contract, but if I were a GM I would not want to pay either player that contract to be a 6th man. How many teams do well with highly paid 6th men in NBA history? It's basically Ginobili, and neither Hood or Fournier are Ginobili.

It'd be different if either player had defensive versatility or value, but they dont.

 

[Quin's Murderface]

I dont know maybe the Jazz see Rubio/Exum as a better pg option at this point over Donovan and Donovan as a better 2 than Hood.

Jones has reported pretty consistently that the Jazz are intrigued by an Exum/Mitchell backcourt in the long term. It always made sense to me that only one of Exum and Hood would likely be here long term. Rubio seems like a stop gap unless he absolutely wows everyone or Exum flops badly.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It's not about him being fine with it. It the same thing with Hood. Why spend that money on a 6th man when you can put it in your starting lineup? Having Fournier on the books might interfere with being able to extend Rubio or sign some other UFA in 2019.

Except that we'd still have a **** ton of money to spend still and Rubio might not be worth keeping... we can't buy into his recent hot streak... he's done this before. We hope some of the finishing is real and he has a decent rhythm with Rudy now.

Evan's contract might even be more movable and an decent asset then... I remember when Tobias was dumped for relief... we'd love him on that deal right now.

 

[fishonjazz]

Examples?

Anything regarding Burks.









I'm just playing around man. Chill.

Ok

 

[LoPo]

Hood is good as gone if that report is true. He might feel isolated because everybody adores Mitchell and there is a crew of Rubio, Mitchell, Ingles, O'Neale, Jerekbo, Udoh and maybe a few others that really, really get along. You can tell by their social media. Hood is never mentioned.

 

[gomretat]

If true that's not a smart move by Hood.

His saying that has zero impact on him staying or going and has no impact on how things will be if he stays. People are making a lot out of nothing

 

[gomretat]

He's a better defender. He's a better rim protector. I'm not sure if he's a better overall player because he hasn't had a chance to play as much. I think he might be a better fit on this team and in this system. Favs is definitely more skilled offensively. If I had to choose one guy to be my backup 5 only I'd go with Udoh all day. But Favs can also play the 4.

There is no GM in the world that would rank Udoh over Favs.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I mean, yeah, neither is a terrible contract, but if I were a GM I would not want to pay either player that contract to be a 6th man. How many teams do well with highly paid 6th men in NBA history? It's basically Ginobili, and neither Hood or Fournier are Ginobili.

It'd be different if either player had defensive versatility or value, but they dont.

I mean the warriors pay a lot for Iggy... you mentioned Manu. Cleveland has had some expensive bench pieces.

With Rubio there are times you'd want to run DM at PG and having Evan next to him is great. Might even go without a PG and put Ingles and Evan out there are times. I think he'd still get starter minutes and while he is paid well as a 6th man I think he'd be better than our 6th best player.

I think it would be ideal to have someone like that off the bench actually.

 

[Sneakers]

The article wasn't even that bad... I think Hood is approaching this as fairly as anyone would. Unlike others have suggested, I don't think his comments in the article were unprofessional. He said (paraphrasing) "I've enjoyed my time in Utah" "I look forward to play wherever I am, whether in Utah or somewhere else" etc. No bad mouthing, no demanding of trade... and frankly he was held out for a half dozen games when we started winning more and has been the most consistent name in trade rumors, its not unreasonable for him to feel that way

 

[Jazzta]

His saying that has zero impact on him staying or going and has no impact on how things will be if he stays. People are making a lot out of nothing

I would have kept that indoors, it's all good though I didn't say anything.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Ill be disappointed if we trade Hood for just a 1st round pick unless its a lottery pick or potential lottery pick.

 

[oneye]

Hood is good as gone if that report is true. He might feel isolated because everybody adores Mitchell and there is a crew of Rubio, Mitchell, Ingles, O'Neale, Jerekbo, Udoh and maybe a few others that really, really get along. You can tell by their social media. Hood is never mentioned.

Don’t agree, Donovan and Royce are definetly better friends but Hood and Donovan seem to be somewhat close as well. The fact fans adore Mitchell so much may make him feel isolated especially after being booed.