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Venting on Utah Drivers!!

ak47executioner

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I just gotta see how many people in Utah go threw the same driving pains as I do while driving.

1. I-215 people holding up the fast/pass lane and use it as their own personal lane, (theory cops don't enforce the passing lane so people will ride in it all day long no care for others) what ever happened to common curtsy slow traffic keep right!? I think some people feel that they are enforcing the law by going speed limit and forming a utah road block to where no one can pass. Hey I got an idea how about you let the cops do that.

2.Utah drivers are in their own little worlds while driving, texting, phone calls, so many times I have seen a cop with flashing lights speeding to get somewhere and people do not yield for ever. I can only imagine if i was a cop how bad that would bother me.

3.Finger flipping, I cant count how many times I have been caught off by people and I end up getting the finger?!?

I'm sure this isnt just utah people that drive this way but I only have majority driving experience here so! I have tons more driving pet-peeves those are just to name a few! I'm sure all the slow people will flame me for this and all I have to say to you is keep right!! I have been driving from the age of 16 I'm in my late 20's now no accidents god knows how many times I have had to dodge other cars so they dont hit me, in my car and motorcycle.
 
Wait, going the speed limit is a BAD thing?

I refuse to complain about someone going the speed limit. Ever.

One should never be in the far left lane except to pass (high volume of traffic excluded).
 
I hate drivers that don't signal. How annoying it is to wait and wait thinking that a car is going to go straight and then they just turn.

How annoying it is to be stuck in the right hand lane behind a person only to have them just skid off the road into a parking lot or something without signaling.
 
I just gotta see how many people in Utah go threw the same driving pains as I do while driving.

1. I-215 people holding up the fast/pass lane and use it as their own personal lane, (theory cops don't enforce the passing lane so people will ride in it all day long no care for others) what ever happened to common curtsy slow traffic keep right!? I think some people feel that they are enforcing the law by going speed limit and forming a utah road block to where no one can pass. Hey I got an idea how about you let the cops do that.

2.Utah drivers are in their own little worlds while driving, texting, phone calls, so many times I have seen a cop with flashing lights speeding to get somewhere and people do not yield for ever. I can only imagine if i was a cop how bad that would bother me.

3.Finger flipping, I cant count how many times I have been caught off by people and I end up getting the finger?!?

I'm sure this isnt just utah people that drive this way but I only have majority driving experience here so! I have tons more driving pet-peeves those are just to name a few! I'm sure all the slow people will flame me for this and all I have to say to you is keep right!! I have been driving from the age of 16 I'm in my late 20's now no accidents god knows how many times I have had to dodge other cars so they dont hit me, in my car and motorcycle.

Pos rep on the way. I agree with you completely.

#1. I have to say, though, I spent 5 years in San Diego and if the far left lane is the chill out lane here it is twice as bad there. I call it the cell phone lane, as it seems that's where people like to be to make phone calls because they are next to the median and people aren't slowing down to exit/enter the freeway. It is amazing how well a freeway setup works FOR EVERYONE if slow traffic stays to the right and the left lane is only used to pass. MUCH safer for everyone and it allows people to drive as they see fit without causing problems for anyone else. I agree that it seems some people are pacing the car next to them to intentionally create a Utah road block. The fact that there is something widely known as a Utah road block (or Mormon road block) should tell you something. I just want to know who deputized them to use their car as a traffic control device?

#2. I think this has changeg everywhere now that pretty much everyone has a cell phone. Keep in mind that a person just talking on thier phone, not dialing, not texting, just talking, is as incapacitated as someone who is at a 0.14 BAC. Yet you're the next worse thing to a child molester if you drink and drive, but no one bats an eye at the self important jack *** gabbing away on his cell phone while chillin' in the left lane and not having enough coordination to use his signal when he realizes his exit is coming and he has to cross 4 lanes of traffic to get there.

#3. I often wonder what people mean by being cut off. I think I have the opposite view on this one. Any car should be able to change lanes between any other two cars. You should leave enough space to make that possible. What I find much more annoying than someone squeezing in in-front of me is the jack *** who wants to play "king of the lane" by riding up on the guy in front of him because he knows I want to get over. Then, when I find a way to get in anyway (I have a very firm grasp on how big my car is) he gets pissed and calls what I did cutting him off as he gives me the finger.

I'll add my own. When I'm waiting to turn right onto a three lane road and there are people making a left turn onto that road with a green arrow it is perfectly okay for me to turn (as well as the scared idiot in front of me) because everyone should be turning into their corresponding lane according to Utah law. By not turning you are impeading traffic, which is against the law.
 
I lived in Utah from the time I got my license until just a few months ago. I always heard about how bad Utah drivers are but never really had any context.

Living in the Bay Area, I've had to drive a fair bit more than in Utah, and I've definitely noticed the difference. There are always going to be ******** on the road, but Utah is so much worse than here.
 
I lived in Utah from the time I got my license until just a few months ago. I always heard about how bad Utah drivers are but never really had any context.

Living in the Bay Area, I've had to drive a fair bit more than in Utah, and I've definitely noticed the difference. There are always going to be ******** on the road, but Utah is so much worse than here.

When I lived in Palo Alto I soon realized that swapping crappy Utah drivers for old Asian women drivers wasn't a fair deal.
 
#3. I often wonder what people mean by being cut off. I think I have the opposite view on this one. Any car should be able to change lanes between any other two cars. You should leave enough space to make that possible. What I find much more annoying than someone squeezing in in-front of me is the jack *** who wants to play "king of the lane" by riding up on the guy in front of him because he knows I want to get over. Then, when I find a way to get in anyway (I have a very firm grasp on how big my car is) he gets pissed and calls what I did cutting him off as he gives me the finger.

I'll add my own. When I'm waiting to turn right onto a three lane road and there are people making a left turn onto that road with a green arrow it is perfectly okay for me to turn (as well as the scared idiot in front of me) because everyone should be turning into their corresponding lane according to Utah law. By not turning you are impeading traffic, which is against the law.

These 2 are the most egregious imo. The first is not only the most annoying but also potentially very dangerous.

I have lived in Portland, LA, Phoenix, and now Reno as well as Utah in between, as well as having driven in all the states in between a lot and for a few weeks at a time in about 35 of the lower 48 states with work. No where is this so bad as in Utah. It literally freaked me out when I got here to Reno and signaled, watching closely over my shoulder hoping the guy wouldn't notice me and roar forward to block my opening in traffic, only to see him actually back off a little to let me in.

What a concept!

I always felt in Utah that the standard was "this is my ****ing road and I will be damned if you are taking the tiniest piece of it away from me mother****er". The worst I have noticed with this are gigantic pickup trucks and soccer-mom types in minivans.

One memorable occasion I was on I-15 near Centerville in Davis County and was gradually moving over to get to my exit. I had about 2 car lengths on the minivan behind me in the other lane. I signaled and started to move over only to have her scream past me, lowering her cell phone from her ear long enough to glare at me as if I had simultaneously tried to rape and eat her children. The funny thing was, she then moved over in front of me. So instead of just letting me over then moving over herself, essentially swapping spots with me, she had to make some point...not sure what the point was...before moving over.

Huh?

You see it all the time. Even to the point where people won't let other people merge, the most simple and one of the most common of freeway interactions. And usually while they close the gap they either glare as if you are evil incarnate or they stare woodenly straight ahead as if they had no idea you were riding on the shoulder with your turn signal on trying to ease into traffic as they blow by you. What? Oh I had no idea you were there? Oh, you wanted to merge? I thought you were just going to park there on the shoulder.

Ok, /rant about that.

Here are a few other pet peeves:

1) Never, ever, ever, ever using a turn signal. This is not just irritating, and against the law, but can be surprisingly dangerous. I have a friend who was severely hurt partially due to an idiot not using a turn signal.

2) Making a left turn into the far right lane (touched on in the quote above). Also not just illegal and stupid but dangerous. The best are the ones who turn into the far right lane just to move immediately back into the left lane, where they should have been in the first place, of course without signaling.

3) People who wave you through a 4-way stop even when they have the right of way. I have seen accidents happen due to this. One was near a school and really pissed me off as kids were nearby. 3 cars stopped at near the same time. The car at the extreme right, who should have gone first according to the law, waved the car opposite him through. Both of the other drivers were confused and then both of them moved and WHAM! Lucky it was low speed and no one was hurt. If the freaking moron had just gone as the law dictates, guess what? NO ACCIDENT! Yes the other 2 were morons too for not figuring it out, but the first guy precipitated it.

4) Trying to squeeze one, no two, no three cars through a yellow..oops red...light. Seriously, you will not lose much more than a minute or 2 if you just slow and stop when the light turns yellow and then red. Again a big culprit here are soccer-moms in minivans. Makes me afraid to slow or stop at a yellow or even red light as I might get rear-ended by some minivan trying to beat the light.

Ok obviously this is a hot-button topic for me, and obviously I drive a lot (I have a 2007 Prius with 110,000 miles on it, and it had 10 on it when I bought it) so I see this **** all the time. So I have to force myself off the soapbox.

Carry on.
 
3) People who wave you through a 4-way stop even when they have the right of way. I have seen accidents happen due to this. One was near a school and really pissed me off as kids were nearby. 3 cars stopped at near the same time. The car at the extreme right, who should have gone first according to the law, waved the car opposite him through. Both of the other drivers were confused and then both of them moved and WHAM! Lucky it was low speed and no one was hurt. If the freaking moron had just gone as the law dictates, guess what? NO ACCIDENT! Yes the other 2 were morons too for not figuring it out, but the first guy precipitated it.

Even worse is when they do this when they are driving down a road and stop where there isn't even a stop sign only a side street that Ts with the road you're on so they can be "nice" and let someone in, even though the road would have been clear and the person could ahve turned onto the road sooner if they had just followed the rules of the road and kept driving. I can understand when there's gridlock and you let someone in, I do that all the time, but when traffic is moving at normal speed and some do-gooder stops to let someone in and causes mass confussion for everyone else I want to smack them upside the head. When people try to be nice to me like that I look at them as they keep trying to wave me in and shake my head, point at them and wave them on. I'll go when it's my ****ing turn to go.

Oh and on the people who want to keep turning left even though the green arrow has long since turned red, if I'm waiting to go straight I make sure to go as soon as my light is green. I honestly wonder if they think the delay between their green arrow turning red and my light turning green is more than 10 seconds. I'm just trying to let them know that it doesn't last that long.

Merging is a form of combat in Utah. Haven't noticed that anywhere else.
 
Wait, going the speed limit is a BAD thing?I refuse to complain about someone going the speed limit. Ever.

One should never be in the far left lane except to pass (high volume of traffic excluded).

while I sympathize with the impulse to just abide by law, it's a situational thing. It's safer to go the same as the traffic, to minimize lane changing around you. I've heard highway patrolmen say they will give tickets to offenders who create this hazard. . . . just trying to help the Utah folks get over the roadblock impulse. . . .

I might be overstating my favorite peeve here. Too much emphasis in the culture on following authority. Need to think more, be more aware of all the situation.
 
I've lived in Oregon for a few years. And I have a big complaint about Oregon drivers. This happens all the time: They think politeness supercedes the rules of the road. For instance, you pull up to a four-way stop. Someone going the other direction gets there slightly ahead of you. He smiles and waits for you to go. You sit there thinking: You were here first, jackass. Just go. Just follow the rules and go. He gives you a little wave indicating that you should go. But 12 years of driving in states where people would run you over if they could get where they're going a minute quicker has conditioned you to robotically follow the rules. (To quote David Lynch: "If everyone follows the rules of the road, we will all get there safer and faster.) So you wave for the guy to go. Now he gets this put-upon exasperated expression on his face like you're a ****ing insufferable nidge for not going when he said you should go. Look, buster, I don't go when you say I should go. I follow the damn traffic laws. Your efforts to be polite are idiotic. If you had just gone first, like the law says, we wouldn't have had to had this moronic forty-second exchange of trying to guess the other person's intentions, waving our hands like: You go! No you go! If you arrive at a four-way stop first, just go. It's your turn. That's how it works.

Another thing that happens all the time is they slow down and wave you to pull into the lane ahead of them if you're waiting to turn right onto the street. Listen, jackass. Don't stop traffic to wave me onto the street. Whenever somebody does this, 9 times out of 10 there is nobody behind them, or maybe one or two cars behind them, and then a clear path. So what happens is, they think they're going to do you this big favor. Suddenly they're stopped in the street giving you the wave and nod to go ahead and go. And you have to sit there confused for a second, asking yourself: What? Why the **** is this happening? Just keep going, I'll pull into that big empty lane right behind you. There is no reason to stop. There is no reason to do this. The normal ebb and flow of traffic works just fine. Shortly they're looking at you like you're the idiot.

Listen, retardedly polite drivers, I don't know whether or not to go because I don't know what you're doing, because what you're doing makes no sense. Just stop it. You want to be polite? Use your signal. Merge safely onto the freeway. If you're in the fast lane and you're going more slowly than the guy behind you, move into the other lane and let him pass. That's polite driving. None of this I'll-just-randomly-conform-to-some-notion-of-politeness-that-conflicts-with-normal-driving-laws crap.

Stupid Oregon.
 
I think my biggest pet peeve right now is with truckers. Where I live, we seem to get an absolute **** load of them (Center St. in North Salt Lake). It never fails that if they can get their cab into a spot, away they go. Just ignore the fact that I have to brake so hard I have stuff falling off the seat and there's no one behind me. And then, because there's a light a mile up the road, they don't bother getting up to speed and just drive 25-30 MPH when the limit is 40. Drives me completely bat-**** crazy. I've been so tempted to just plow into them (especially when I'm in my crappy work truck) just to prove a point.
 
My personal favorites are the ones who ignore the merge left (or right) signs when construction is going on. They fly past everyone else who is trying to get over then jump in the front of the line. If that person pulls up next to me, there is no way I'm letting him in. Sorry, but that is how I roll.
 
My personal favorites are the ones who ignore the merge left (or right) signs when construction is going on. They fly past everyone else who is trying to get over then jump in the front of the line. If that person pulls up next to me, there is no way I'm letting him in. Sorry, but that is how I roll.

Now if traffic is moving then they're the ***, but if traffic is at a stand still then people should utilize both lanes up until the merge point. If they don't it causes intersections up the road to get jacked and people getting "stuck" in the middle of the intersection because the line of stopped cars is longer than it should be.

On another note, I've had people try very hard not to let me in. In the end they usually decide that it isn't worth getting in an accident over, a fear I do not suffer from.
 
Seriously, you guys take the Jazz getting torn to shreds that bad?

I love the air of arrogance that surrounds people when they talk about this stuff.
 
Seriously, you guys take the Jazz getting torn to shreds that bad?

I love the air of arrogance that surrounds people when they talk about this stuff.

#1) What does the Jazz have to do with a thread about traffic frustration?

#2) Everyone gets frustrated by something. If you are Mr. Perfect Patience Guy well more power to you. It is however amazing how much arrogance you packed into that short post. Bravo!
 
#1) What does the Jazz have to do with a thread about traffic frustration?

#2) Everyone gets frustrated by something. If you are Mr. Perfect Patience Guy well more power to you. It is however amazing how much arrogance you packed into that short post. Bravo!

Thank you.

/bow
 
Eff man. You know what also sucks? Friggin death and taxes, brohs. Hate all those things.
 
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