Warriors and Jazz Mega Trade

[colton]

Excuse my newbie ignorance but you can trade a $788K guy for a $4M guy, $9M guy, $11M guy and 2 draft picks?

I am not complaining because we will be loaded with picks in a talented year. And maybe we can showcase one of these guys and get a trade for another draft pick from a team looking to make the playoffs.
But I thought contracts had to match within a certain amount.

Only if both teams are over the salary cap. In this case, the Jazz are far below the cap, so there is no matching salaries requirement.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I don't know enough about the 2014 prospects to really get excited about them because it's highly unlikely we're bad enough for Wiggins or Parker.

What I am PSYCHED for though is finally getting to watch the young guys play! 30+ minutes every single night for Burke, Burks, Hay, D-Fav, and Kanter is going to be so much fun. The last couple of years have taught me that winning with boring basketball and players you don't like is overrated. Bring on the tank!

Me too.. forreal.

But I know the 14 players very well... and its deserving of every bit of the hype.
I've been talking up the 14 class for 3 years... and have been also pimping the 17... with 15 and 16 being relatively weak.

 

[A-Train (old)]

I continue seeing conflicted info on whether the picks are unprotected.. is it for sure???

Also, I think Rush has great upside for the jazz.. way underrated.

Yes, both are unprotected.

 

[TheStormofWar]

Can i get clarification - Can the Jazz trade any of the GSW players at the trade deadline? Is there still a one year hold of sorts that is required?

There's a hold, but it's only for a few months I believe. They can be dealt at the deadline.

 

[A-Train (old)]

Me too.. forreal.

But I know the 14 players very well... and its deserving of every bit of the hype.
I've been talking up the 14 class for 3 years... and have been also pimping the 17... with 15 and 16 being relatively weak.

The '14 class is very reminiscent of the '03 draft, with a lot of franchise talent up top but the difference is the '14 draft has talent all through the draft. Wiggins (LeBron), Parker (Carmelo), Randle (Bosh), Exum (Wade), not to mention the Harrison brothers and James Young who are getting vastly underrated right now by mock draft sites. WCS, Marcus Smart, GRIII, and Gary Harris (to an extent) are all players that would have been in the lottery this year that returned to school just making the draft class that much stronger.

 

[mhindy]

I continue seeing conflicted info on whether the picks are unprotected.. is it for sure???

Also, I think Rush has great upside for the jazz.. way underrated.

I agree. If Rush can return to form, he's the sneaky upside pick for best asset we got in return.

I don't know if all of you have seen this, but 2 years ago he averaged:

9.8 pts on 50.1% from the field, 45.2 % from three, 3.9 boards, 1.5 assists and .9 blocks.

He also played great D. Those are pretty awesome stats on a bargain of a contract.

 

[A-Train (old)]

I agree. If Rush can return to form, he's the sneaky upside pick for best asset we got in return.

I don't know if all of you have seen this, but 2 years ago he averaged:

9.8 pts on 50.1% from the field, 45.2 % from three, 3.9 boards, 1.5 assists and .9 blocks.

He also played great D. Those are pretty awesome stats on a bargain of a contract.

Many people wanted a 3 and D player in the draft (Reggie Bullock) myself included and now we have one in Rush.

 

[Harcher]

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BRush carreer stats.

 

[theonlyone]

Kevin Pelton @kpelton 05 Jul

Still some confusion on the Dubs' trade exceptions. Agree seems like it would require Iguodala S&T, but they think they created them.

Kevin Pelton @kpelton 05 Jul

In that scenario, Warriors wouldn't need to renounce Jack & Landry, which @Marcus Thompson reported they did.

Hopefully this is not true.

 

[A-Train (old)]

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BRush carreer stats.

I remember when he entered the draft, I always thought he was going to be a star. He ended up falling to #11 I think and I was surprised I was sure he was going top-10. It's kind of funny because McLemore fell on draft day too, Rush didn't fall as bad as McLemore did but still the NBA draft is not kind to Kansas shooting guards.

 

[Sneakers]

Still don't get why peeps are hyping themselves on Rush "the new Foye" one year FA rental showcase

 

[mhindy]

Still don't get why peeps are hyping themselves on Rush "the new Foye" one year FA rental showcase

And if that ends up being the case I'm fine with that too. But he had a really nice year 2 years ago and his upside is much better than Foye so why not be happy about it?

 

[green]

Found this about the picks:

@DJJazzyJody: Final haul for UJ from GSW: Andris Biedrins, Richard Jefferson, Brandon Rush, unprotected 1st-round picks 2014/17, 2 2nd-round picks, cash.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Smd.. unreal.

 

[Harcher]

Found this about the picks:

@DJJazzyJody: Final haul for UJ from GSW: Andris Biedrins, Richard Jefferson, Brandon Rush, unprotected 1st-round picks 2014/17, 2 2nd-round picks, cash.

So we get to thank GSW to some extent for Gobert as well?

 

[Coach Ellis]

And they got cash to cover those contracts? That was smooth. Maybe DL will buy some more picks next year with the extra cash.

 

[mellow]

First time posting about this:

1- What 2nds are involved?

2- the 2017 might end up being better than the 2014 pick.

3- Please please please let Jack sign anywhere else.

4- I knew a tank was coming, but I don't think I was prepared for this.

5- The wurrios are in my top 10 least liked NBA teams. Marc Jaxson is in my top 2 least favorite coaches of all time. And the Jazz just helped them? Thats a little hard to swallow.

 

[Doublea]

Still don't get why peeps are hyping themselves on Rush "the new Foye" one year FA rental showcase

It's a psychological defense mechanism to find the good in dire situations.

 

[Dr. Jones]

First time posting about this:

1- What 2nds are involved?

2- the 2017 might end up being better than the 2014 pick.

3- Please please please let Jack sign anywhere else.

Great post.

 

[UGLI baby]

The 2017 pick is the new Knicks pick.