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Jefferson was absolutely winded there is no doubt about it. Nothing to be worried about but he needs work. Showed his great touch around the basket during the game, and during the drills made more shots than anyone.

I'm with the people that think fes looked good. Good for fes that is.

Elson was better than I thought hed be. Didnt do anything on D or hit the boards but on offense moved great, set good screens and made some nice shots.

Out of all the maybes I think Jeffers was the best. The other two wings are absolute garbage.

Evans, was so fun to watch. He did a 360 two handed dunk during warmups. In the game he was everywhere on the offensive boards. Didn't really know what to do on offense, just stood on the left block and watched the point guard. Soon as someone shot he crashed the boards. As long as nobody got a body on him he'd get the rebound. Only problem is if anyone even got a hand on him they could hold him back.

By far the biggest disappointment was Hayward. I'm a little worried about him, but just a little. Hopefully it was just nerves, he showed hes athletic enough to play.


I'm guessing there was about 6000 people there, which is way more than usual.
 
Echo what everyone has said about Evans. What a huge surprise... and I don't mean that literally. That kid is made of toothpicks, but he has a great nose for the ball, ridiculous hops, and-- as someone pointed out earlier-- an unexpected court awareness that pretty much has his place on the team set in stone. Earlier comparisons to Keon Clark seem justified; I just don't see how he will ever add much to his frame, but maybe he won't need it. I do wonder what position he'll play, though. I couldn't tell if he'd be quick enough to play SF, but he'll get physically demolished at the PF and C. Hm.

I disagree with the Hayward criticism. Yes, he missed some easy shots right at the rim, but that looked a lot like nerves and a couple of rookie mistakes to me. Otherwise, he was hustling to stick with his man on defense, got a steal and a block, and pulled down five rebounds that I counted, and this was all in three 10-minute periods, so he couldn't have been on the floor more than 20 minutes. I agree that if he had converted a couple of silly misses in the paint, he'd be getting a lot of praise right now. He also had good muscle on his frame-- not at all as skinny as some have suggested-- and played scrappy a couple of times when he got emotionally involved (i.e., the block everyone is mentioning, which happened immediately after he got stripped). I actually think, once his nerves calm down and he stops beating himself up over every little mistake, that he'll be getting regular minutes... as in, this season.

In general, it was hard to make many more judgements from the scrimmage. It was sloppy, there didn't seem to be any chemistry, and there was a complete absence of leadership on the floor... including from Deron. I think this was more a function of most of the people on the floor having no idea where they were supposed to be within the play than anything else. Also, the 4-5 guys trying to make the squad were asserting themselves perhaps too much at times, with the exception of Evans, who did not play outside of himself and I think came out the only clear candidate for one of those spots. That said, there were only a couple of other things I walked away feeling sure of: One, that Fes, although in noticeably better shape, has not matured on the court whatsoever, and he was unable to establish himself as either a rebounder or blocker. He won't be any more of a factor this year than the previous seasons, in my opinion. The second thing is that AK looked really, really good. He had a little bit more muscle (nobody will be complaining about him being too skinny-- he actually backed Millsap down on the low block early in the first period) and had a presence that almost had me believing he could be a quiet-yet-legitimate-leader on the team this year.

It was a good time. I look forward to October 7th to see if the team has begun to develop any sense of congruity, and to see who-- besides Evans-- gets a roster spot.
 
Thanks for every posting info about event. It was too long of drive to make from houston.

Hayward sounds like he played a lot like his first half of the first game in summer league he settled down and played well after that.
 
Deron cheapshotted Hayward on a screen. I hate Deron so much right now.
 
Thanks for the comments but I think everyone should remember it was a scrimmage. I like Evans a lot in summer league. I thought he would make the team out of summer league not because of his hops but because his high BB IQ. The kid just knows how to play the game. He needs to gain weight and work on his offense but he can play defense, rebound and block shots.

Hayward is going to be fine. For al the people who wanted the Jazz to take Ed Davis, guess what he is hurt AGAIN.
 
Thanks to all who posted their observations to this thread.

For what it's worth, here are Locke's notes for the scrimmage:
https://1320kfan.com/index.php/audi...rimmage_observations_and_post_scrimmage_sound

Great crowd today at the scrimmage and the floor looks great.

Overall observations.

The team looked like it has a long way to go understanding the plays. Numerous times when a player had to be told by another player or coach to clear out or run through. The secondary break was really poor. One play in specific Watson is leading the break with Thompson on the right and Evans trailing Thompson. In Jazz basketball, Thompson is supposed to run through from right side underneath the rim and the left side to clear out the area so the trailing man in this case Evans is open for a dunk. Instead, Thompson spots up on the wing, when Evans runs down the lane he is not open and Watson passes to Thompson for a 22 footer that was no good. Three new guys running a play like the rest of the NBA. In the Jazz system that is an Evans dunk. Not today.

The overall energy was very good. They played hard. Coach Sloan was even pleased with that aspect. The players universally seems very respectful and impressed by the effort of their teammates thus far in camp.

Transition defense was not very good overall.

Coach Sloan said, “We had a lot of guys played well.” “I thought some of the young guys did all right.”

Individual Observations

The most newsworthy moment of the day came after practice when Jerry Sloan gave CJ Miles a scolding. “He hasn’t been in his rhythm like you would expect him to be. He has been back a little, he has had things that have hindered him. I just mentioned to him yesterday he has to work harder and not get into such a casual approach to the game, he has to compete to get better.”

Earl Watson had the highest turnover rate of any point guard that played 20 minutes or more last year in the NBA. That was evident in the first half as he committed numerous turnovers. At the same time, it is clear he can help this team a tremendous amount. He is a solid defender. He runs the pick and roll well and from all reports are he is learning the system well.

Jeremy Evans will be the talk of most of the people at the scrimmage. He is an unreal athlete. He impacts plays and gets his hands on lots of balls. However, he needs to get stronger. If you watch him lots of times he doesn’t something amazing with his athleticism but is unable to finish the play due to his lack of strength. However, it was very interesting after the scrimmage to hear Coach Sloan lay the praise on “He is pretty intelligent basketball player, not just his athletic ability his intelligence of knowing and seeing what is going on is not by accident. A lot of people have the athletic ability and can’t do anything with it. Our biggest concern will be about his body.”

Paul Millsap and Andrei Kirilenko were the best players on the floor. AK played exclusively at the 4 and impacted the game a great deal. Millsap was hustle and grit.

Francisco Elson was the most pleasant surprise. He fits this team very well. Coach Sloan said after the game they have liked his skills for a long time. “We have always liked some of the things he does, people have to guard him at the top of the key and he runs the floor well defensively and those things can help us.”

One play told me all I need to know about Gordon Hayward. He got buried on a pick, I mean buried but he stayed in the play and when the ball handler dished off to a post big Hayward got back in the play and blocked the shot. Lots of guys would have died permanently on the pick.

Hayward turned the ball over a few times early on drives. It looked as though he got fouled and the officials let the guys play at an absurd level. Hayward showed the ability to play with others, he never got beat defensively that I can recall. He did miss on three drives to the basket and that will be a reoccurring issue as it is with every rookie. They are getting hit by bigger and stronger guys and they aren’t able to finish. If you recall both Matthews and Maynor dealt with this last year.

Al Jefferson looked good on a pick and pop though the shot didn’t fall. Around the basket he has a super quick release on his push shot and it never misses. He got some easy baskets today more than he might have had all last year.

Sundiata Gaines played well. Jeffers was very active and aggressive.

The podcast is collection of postgame sound from the scrimmage.
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that is odd since everything we read would have us believe it was going to be two-tone. than they change their minds. interesting. guess 2k11 will have to release a patch.
 
Observation - Jazz are still great with 2nd round picks. ...and terrible with 1st rounders.

Hey, I wasn't for drafting Ed Davis. I wanted Aldrich. I would love for Hayward to work out but today brought back all the horror and disbelief of draft night. ..KOC!!!
 
But seriously, did anyone notice how transparently Locke is going to bat for his bosses? I mean, I understand, I wouldn't close the door on the idea depending on the consequences, but damn. And this isn't to say that Hayward will be horrible or whatever. But this guy will not shut up about how great of a pick Hayward will be, even though BEFORE the draft, the only thing I heard him say about Hayward was ****-talk.

One play told me all I need to know about Gordon Hayward. He got buried on a pick, I mean buried but he stayed in the play and when the ball handler dished off to a post big Hayward got back in the play and blocked the shot. Lots of guys (quantify?) would have died permanently on the pick.

Hayward turned the ball over a few times early on drives. It looked as though he got fouled and the officials let the guys play at an absurd level. Hayward showed the ability to play with others, he never got beat defensively that I can recall. He did miss on three drives to the basket and that will be a reoccurring issue as it is with every rookie. They are getting hit by bigger and stronger guys and they aren’t able to finish. If you recall both Matthews and Maynor dealt with this last year.
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Whatever isn't underlined are the facts, whatever is (most of it) is some kind of spin (word choice, plain excuse making, scrambling for a positive and making too much of it).

Hayward might be fine, but he sucked today. He sucked. "But he fought through a screen!" Nice job, David "Pom Poms" Locke. Pardon me for expecting a little bit better from the next Pistol Pete Hornacek. I know I shouldn't care, but shills that masquerade as objective experts tap into a nerve for me.

I'm making too much of this. I swear I won't go write4u on someone's *** about it.
 
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