I don't want to take the plunge with Hill but honestly he is the best chance we have at having a third consistent, productive contributor. He had one of the most problematic injuries a player can have mid-season, but he's otherwise good for 70 games a year.
I'm a little butt hurt he sat out the last two games, but I'm sure he's not milking anything.
I'm a little butt hurt he sat out the last two games, but I'm sure he's not milking anything.
Dear lord man, no one is trading a lotto pick for a year rental of a dude who is coming off the season Favors just had. Play mock GM in the realm of realism please.
I know nothing about draft prospects, I just know that I no longer believe in Favors, so sure.
Also, you're just dumping all of those players and HOPING the Jazz make a splash in free agency based on almost no previous history of doing so?
I mean, I'd love Millsap or Ibaka, but it's probably wise to consider what you have to lose just to make an offer.
And further, you would have to think dumping those guys would mean unloading draft picks, which is basically the Jazz's only way to add roster changing talent these next few years because of how capped out we will be, with or without Hill.
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I love when people say let hill walk and just get guy X with that Hill money. Shows you have zero concept of the cap and our situation.
If Hill walks we are shopping for the a new point guard in bargain section for a replacement that won't be nearly as good... forget getting an upgrade.
If Hill walks we are shopping for the a new point guard in bargain section for a replacement that won't be nearly as good... forget getting an upgrade.
Which is why Hill's agent didnt sign an extension. He has the Jazz by the balls and he knows it. Jazz should just pray CP3 and Lowry change teams and eat up some of this available free agent PG money.
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We can dump all those it's without sending first rounders.
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I think him ending the season in a suit will hurt his value even with the bottom feeders. San Antonio may come knocking but I'd feel safe offering more than they can/will I think.
I think we keep him for somewhere in between 20-25 per over 4 years.
I just dont think it does. He played a really good 1st round series. He proved his value. I just dont know how much a toe hurts him at the end of the day. It'd be a different conversation if he had knee surgery.
That's being optimistic. Finding 3 different teams to dump 3 different players? That is hard. Plus we wouldn't be the only team in that market.
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To me, it just doesn't feel smart to dump $25/30 million per into a guy that's on the wrong side of 30 and is probably going to give us around 60 games next year. Even if he's healthy in next years playoffs, does he really get us over the hump with GSW? No. It's a tough spot to be in and the Jazz are gonna have to get creative/lucky if they let Hill walk but that's why Lindsey gets paid the big bucks.
Committing that much cash to Hill honestly feels like Utah locks into being the 4th or 5th best team in the West for the next 4 or 5 years with an annual second round ouster from the playoffs (and that's if Hill is healthy).
Committing that much cash to Hill honestly feels like Utah locks into being the 4th or 5th best team in the West for the next 4 or 5 years with an annual second round ouster from the playoffs (and that's if Hill is healthy).
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Just so we all understand (without considering draft pick salaries):
So the Jazz are $20mil over the cap heading into the offseason. Who are they dropping to sign these other free agents?
Just so we all understand (without considering draft pick salaries):
| Guaranteed Contracts | |
| Bolomboy | $ 1,312,611.00 |
| Burks | $ 10,845,506.00 |
| Exum | $ 4,992,385.00 |
| Favors | $ 12,000,000.00 |
| Gobert | $ 21,224,719.00 |
| Hood | $ 2,386,864.00 |
| Johnson | $ 10,505,000.00 |
| Lyles | $ 2,441,400.00 |
| Non-Guaranteed Contracts | |
| Diaw | $ 7,500,000.00 |
| Neto | $ 1,471,382.00 |
| Cap Holds | |
| Hayward | $ 24,109,710.00 |
| Hill | $ 12,000,000.00 |
| Ingles | $ 4,085,000.00 |
| Mack | $ 4,623,335.00 |
| Withey | $ 1,471,382.00 |
| Total: | $ 120,969,294.00 |
| Salary Cap: | $ 101,000,000.00 |
| Cap Space: | ($ 19,969,294.00) |
So the Jazz are $20mil over the cap heading into the offseason. Who are they dropping to sign these other free agents?
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So what does not paying Hill feel like? A 6/7 seed? Because either way we are against the cap and not able to sign true top tier players.
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Dante shows promise once out of every four games.
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So 29 million a year for George Hill? Maybe it works out, but one, we would be absurdly overpaying, and two, it could just as well handicap us over the next couple of years and prevent us from making moves that we otherwise would have. I just don't see how a couple more 1st/2nd round exits is worth that kind of money and opportunity cost.