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What are they sayin about the Jazz in Beantown?

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Adleman on Sloan/Maravich:

"Adelman got to see Sloan's tenacity up close and personal and he never saw a more hard nosed player. "If you played with Jerry you respected how hard he worked, if you played against him you hated him," said Adelman.

Back in the day, Sloan and Chicago guard Norm Van Lier were the "Bruise Brothers". Sloan was consistently on the N.B.A. All-Defensive First Team leaving the competition black and blue along the way.
"He was a 6'6 guard who lead our team in rebounding , the guy was the tougest competitor I every saw." "He was a mean guy who intimidated players, He got after Pete Maravich so bad one day all Pete would do was shoot 30 footers ." According to Adelman that's just the way Jerry was , and it's the way he wants the Utah Jazz to play . "He would not back down from anyone , he would do whatever it took to take someone out of their game."

Physical play has become the trademark of the Utah Jazz , its been their style for 20 years . But now you know where it comes from."

That was before Pete started feelin too outta sorts to play when da Bulls came to town.
 
Doc Rivers on the topic, and how it all started:

"I loved Frazier's defense, the way he'd steal the ball at midcourt. He'd even steal it from Jerry West," he said of the Knicks' current radio analyst. "I've asked him about his timing on those steals. Earl Monroe, I just loved his style, the way he played. Van Lier had guts, he'd do anything to win, but Sloan might be the toughest player I've ever seen."

Rivers remembered the tipoff at Pistol Pete Maravich's first game against the Bulls. "When the ball went up, Sloan just ran him over, then Sloan said something to him," Rivers said of the Utah Jazz coach. "It looked like he was saying something nice, but I'm sure it had a knife in it."
 
Inquiring minds, they wanna know, eh? Coupla quotes from a (kinda) recent article:

1. Doc Rivers on Sloan: Rivers said he rated Utah's Jerry Sloan among his favorite coaches: "Every time you play a Jerry Sloan team, their execution is going to be flawless and they are going to play hard," Rivers said. "He is one of the coaches who put his ID on a team - who he was as a player and who he is - and you see that every year. Growing up, I watched him and Norm Van Lier, and I don't think people realize how devastating those two were physically every single night. You would see more DNPs with those two - Pistol Pete [Maravich], a lot of guards, were DNPs when they came to Chicago. They didn't want to deal with those two guys."

2. Paul Pierce on Deron: "I think he really turned his game up, especially in the last month," Paul Pierce said. "I'm a big fan. I like to watch him when I'm not playing. I was a little bit surprised he didn't make the All-Star Game."
 
Man I love hearing this, it boosts my insecurities hearing this from players on a team thats in the finals.
 
Kicky, looky here: My old *** is 109 now, I wuz borned in 1901. If it wuz writ in 1950, it's recent to me.

Thangs, they aint changed none since that wuz writ in 2009, know what I'm sayin?
 
Anyone feel like investigating the historical accuracy of the claim that Pistol Pete sat out games against Chicago? I have a feeling this is more fiction than fact.
 
Sirkickyass said:
Anyone feel like investigating the historical accuracy of the claim that Pistol Pete sat out games against Chicago? I have a feeling this is more fiction than fact.
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If it's true I think it's awesome. Sloan will gain a few notches in my book, and he already has quite a few.
 
Hopper said:
Inquiring minds, they wanna know, eh? Coupla quotes from a (kinda) recent article:

1. Doc Rivers on Sloan: Rivers said he rated Utah's Jerry Sloan among his favorite coaches: "Every time you play a Jerry Sloan team, their execution is going to be flawless and they are going to play hard," Rivers said. "He is one of the coaches who put his ID on a team - who he was as a player and who he is - and you see that every year. Growing up, I watched him and Norm Van Lier, and I don't think people realize how devastating those two were physically every single night. You would see more DNPs with those two - Pistol Pete [Maravich], a lot of guards, were DNPs when they came to Chicago. They didn't want to deal with those two guys."
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What? No praise for Sloan's substitution patterns, including the placement of two power forwards together on the court, resulting in a loss of lead or an increase in deficit in EVERY game or a majority of games in the Laker series, even though other combinations were working better?

(Even if this article was last year, it would still apply, because he did it then, too.)

And no mention of his lack of enforcement of defense from the power forward and center who started for most of the year (and last year, too), even though opponents supposedly took DNPs to avoid him when he was a player?

And not a whiff of how Sloan has alienated a string of players--sometimes with no communication for days (see the Arroyo article again), sometimes with vulgar communication (e.g., "effin' c*nt"), independent of how those players might have fared when they were dumped, traded, or re-signed later?

C'mon, Doc; give credit where credit is due.
 
Sirkickyass said:
Anyone feel like investigating the historical accuracy of the claim that Pistol Pete sat out games against Chicago? I have a feeling this is more fiction than fact.
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Some guy by the name a Towle, a complete Maravich homer who writ a book bout Pete called "Magician of the Hardwood," said this here:

"One of the greatest matchups of all time in my book was Jerry Sloan guarding Pete Maravich. Jerry was probably the most determined defensive guard in the NBA, and Jerry had tremendous pride...he was the last guy you ever wanted to fight with. He was always diving to the floor, diving over tables--he was the hardest player I could ever think of in the NBA.

The matchups between him and Pete Maravich were classic. They were worth the price of admission. Jerry would meet Pete across halfcourt and get in his face and not let him go. If you had talked to Pete and asked him "Who was the one guy you didn't want to see on the other team when you walked on the basketball floor?" he probably would have said "Number 4 wearing a Bulls Jersey."

This homer goes on to try and claim that Pistol Pete never backed down, but just ax Adleman, Rivers, or anybuddy else who seen em, ya know?
 
More recent Celtic quotes:

Red Auerbach said:
Sloan's teams are terrific. The way they cut and execute the offense is textbook. It reminds me of my teams from the sixties, the way we kept fighting and scraping.
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Reggie Lewis said:
Anytime you play Utah, you know you're going to come away with bruises and scratches.
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Hopper said:
Could be, Blood, but what the hell duz Auerbach know? Ya really need to ax S2, if ya wants the straight-up truth of the matter, ya know?
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True. Auerbach would have played KouFes. Instead, Sloan held the team back be keeping two phenomenal, all-world talents chained to the bench. Just look at how well Fes played when he got his opportunity. He was the only player on the team against the Lakers with a positive +/-, and that is all anyone needs to look at to understand how unstoppable Fesenko is. Sloan playing Boozer and Millsap together was a gigantic lapse in judgment. They didn't have positive +/-.
 
"Originally Posted by Red Auerbach
Sloan's teams are terrific. The way they cut and execute the offense is textbook. It reminds me of my teams from the sixties, the way we kept fighting and scraping."

Talkin bout fightin, scrappin, Beantown, and all, good ole Dave Cowens mighta been the closest thang to Sloan that I can recalls.

Edit: Well, except for Sloan's own O.G. homey, Stormin Norman Van Lier, a course.
 
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Merged some posts in here that Aint made on the exact same subject in another thread. Those posts were non sequiturs in the original thread.
 
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