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Can we donate Favors to any team? He's worthless really. Hood has moments of great offense and Exum is super fragile. So you can't pay him a big salary.

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... Dante may or may not be really good player in this league, but anyone pretending to know for sure is a complete idiot, as is anyone making comments to the effect that he's done nothing/shown nothing...

I was responding to someone that said Exum should be the Jazz' "#1" offseason priority, higher than Favors and Hood. Favors has more than 30 times as many career win-shares as Exum. 30 TIMES!!! Hood, who has played fewer than twice as many minutes as Exum, has ELEVEN TIMES as many win-shares.
 
I was responding to someone that said Exum should be the Jazz' "#1" offseason priority, higher than Favors and Hood. Favors has more than 30 times as many career win-shares as Exum. 30 TIMES!!! Hood, who has played fewer than twice as many minutes as Exum, has ELEVEN TIMES as many win-shares.
Yeah, Exum is much younger and less experienced of course his career win shares are less. Exums future contract is based on potential. Should JJs next contact be a bigger priority than anyone else on the Jazz?
 
The way things look now is that we have two stars: Gobert and Mitchell. Ingles has become probably the fourth best player on the team. It seems it comes down to keeping Rubio or Dante. Can we keep them both? Should we? I like the vets Joe Jesus and Sefolosha. The rest of the team needs to be evaluated for possible moves. Definitely need a young stretch 4 to pair with Rudy. Favors has definitely peaked and may never again be more than an average player -- or perhaps the evolution of the game with the emphasis on the 3-pt shot has turned him into an average player.


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The way things look now is that we have two stars: Gobert and Mitchell. Ingles has become probably the fourth best player on the team. It seems it comes down to keeping Rubio or Dante. Can we keep them both? Should we? I like the vets Joe Jesus and Sefolosha. The rest of the team needs to be evaluated for possible moves. Definitely need a young stretch 4 to pair with Rudy. Favors has definitely peaked and may never again be more than an average player - or perhaps the evolution of the game with the emphasis on the 3-pt shot has turned him into an average player.


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I was responding to someone that said Exum should be the Jazz' "#1" offseason priority, higher than Favors and Hood. Favors has more than 30 times as many career win-shares as Exum. 30 TIMES!!! Hood, who has played fewer than twice as many minutes as Exum, has ELEVEN TIMES as many win-shares.

Ancient history. Hey, why not dial up Karl Malone and bring him back? He probably has 30x the win shares of Favors. It's great to wax nostalgic over the player Favors WAS a few years ago. But that player is dead. What we're seeing is a player with reduced mobility on both ends of the floor. Favors is a low-end rotation player.

As for Hood and Exum, Hood clearly wants to be paid a ton of money. But he's not a #1 option. Great players don't go through slumps like he's had for 2 games. He can't carry the team when others are struggling. And he plays a position where Utah has a potential star in waiting. The deadline is a perfect time to get value for him and elevate Mitchell to starter.

Exum may or may not pan out. The injuries have been unfortunate. But if he comes at a discount, the Jazz should try to keep him - unless DL needs the cap space to sign a great free agent. He'd return as a backup combo guard, though. That may not be what he wants, but I doubt any team sees him as a starter. You never know what will happen with Rubio at the end of his contrct. He could George Hill us and want a huge deal to stay. And in that case, it would be nice to have Exum and Mitchell as the potential backcourt tandem.
 
The way things look now is that we have two stars: Gobert and Mitchell. Ingles has become probably the fourth best player on the team. It seems it comes down to keeping Rubio or Dante. Can we keep them both? Should we? I like the vets Joe Jesus and Sefolosha. The rest of the team needs to be evaluated for possible moves. Definitely need a young stretch 4 to pair with Rudy. Favors has definitely peaked and may never again be more than an average player -- or perhaps the evolution of the game with the emphasis on the 3-pt shot has turned him into an average player.


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Per my post above, I think you try to keep both, unless cap space is needed. I like a 3-man rotation of Rubio, Mitchell and Exum. Notice the absence of Hood. I'd trade Rodney to bring in a starter at the 3 or 4. Just don't think he's worth the money he'll want. And doing so would keep Mitchell on the bench. Getting a good 4 is essential. I like Ingles better off the bench, but he can hold down the 3 with Sefolosha short-term. Jazz have gotten very little from the 4 though, with Favors being a cardboard cutout of his former self and JJ looking like he's already put in his papers for the Shady Oaks retirement community.
 
I know we all don't wanna lose Hood for nothing, since we invested so much time in him. Hood, however is not the answer, we need to trade him or else we will regret it greatly.

As for now, the longer we keep Favors, Hood and Burks in our line up the more we waste time and delay our growth. We need to find trades for them for more hard nosed defenders with better scoring attributes - i know easier said then done. I also think we part ways with Exum because I think Rubio is our pg of the future.
 
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I know we all don't wanna lose Hood for nothing, since we invested so much time in him. Hood, however is not the answer, we need to trade him or else we will regret it greatly.

As for now, the longer we keep Favors, Hood and Burks in our line up the more we waste time and delay our growth. We need to find trades for them for more hard nosed defenders with better scoring attributes - i know easier said then done. I also think we part ways with Exum because I think Rubio is our pg of the future.

We have every chance of signing Hood for $12-$16Mil/yr if his output and shooting % don't significantly increase. Personally I beleive Hood will be a great scorer but may need a few more years to develop, in this instance we may end up with a great scorer at a cheap price or a significant trade piece.

Its on Hood to perform, especially in his contract year but it can work for the Jazz either way.
 
I know we all don't wanna lose Hood for nothing, since we invested so much time in him. Hood, however is not the answer, we need to trade him or else we will regret it greatly.

As for now, the longer we keep Favors, Hood and Burks in our line up the more we waste time and delay our growth. We need to find trades for them for more hard nosed defenders with better scoring attributes - i know easier said then done. I also think we part ways with Exum because I think Rubio is our pg of the future.


Rubio the future??
Give me a break.

There should be a public poll on Exum. Would love to know who the homers and the haters really are :)
 
Rubio the future??
Give me a break.

There should be a public poll on Exum. Would love to know who the homers and the haters really are :)

You are a homer and almost everyone else is sane, reasonable.
 
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We have every chance of signing Hood for $12-$16Mil/yr if his output and shooting % don't significantly increase. Personally I beleive Hood will be a great scorer but may need a few more years to develop, in this instance we may end up with a great scorer at a cheap price or a significant trade piece.

Its on Hood to perform, especially in his contract year but it can work for the Jazz either way.
This is the Hood moving forward, I say no also to his bad health.

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Rubio the future??
Give me a break.

There should be a public poll on Exum. Would love to know who the homers and the haters really are :)
Exam sadly is overrated and mediocre at best, most jazz fans judge him with our hearts but if we did so with our brain we would know we made a mistake in the draft selecting him so high.

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Hood is more injury-prone than Dante. He gets injured from the slightest contact; Dante's injuries were the result of severe stresses and contact. Also, his inconsistency seems to have worsened. If we had the Hood who scores at will 90 percent of the time, he'd be an All-Star, but that Hood only seems to emerge about 10 percent of the time.
 
The way things look now is that we have two stars: Gobert and Mitchell. Ingles has become probably the fourth best player on the team. It seems it comes down to keeping Rubio or Dante. Can we keep them both? Should we? I like the vets Joe Jesus and Sefolosha. The rest of the team needs to be evaluated for possible moves. Definitely need a young stretch 4 to pair with Rudy. Favors has definitely peaked and may never again be more than an average player -- or perhaps the evolution of the game with the emphasis on the 3-pt shot has turned him into an average player.


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You are absolutely right.

In my opinion, you keep Gobert, Mitchell, Rubio, Exum, Ingles, Bradley, Jerekbo and Udoh. Everybody else is expendable if it gets us a good piece.


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Exam sadly is overrated and mediocre at best, most jazz fans judge him with our hearts but if we did so with our brain we would know we made a mistake in the draft selecting him so high.

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I get this view.
But I also wonder if this view is logical or that rational.
But I am not going to reiterate the defense for Dante. For those like MVP who dismiss him as junk, or you as overrated might be right. I for one think you are wrong, and my main point is you should hope you are wrong too. Cause the Jazz are clearly a few pieces away from being a serious contender.
 
In my opinion, you keep Gobert, Mitchell, Rubio, Exum, Ingles, Bradley, Jerekbo and Udoh. Everybody else is expendable if it gets us a good piece.

No Thabo? I think he is more valuable than Jerebko or Bradley.
 
I'd rather keep Exum than the others. Always been a Exum homer, never been an uber Hood fan. Not interested in paying Favors, he's still trying to figure out what his role on an NBA team is in his eighth season.
 
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