Who do you extend?

[416Klawzz]

I get this view.
But I also wonder if this view is logical or that rational.
But I am not going to reiterate the defense for Dante. For those like MVP who dismiss him as junk, or you as overrated might be right. I for one think you are wrong, and my main point is you should hope you are wrong too. Cause the Jazz are clearly a few pieces away from being a serious contender.

Not like I have an issue with it or with your view on Exum personally, but I think you may be the biggest Dante supporter on here. If exum was so great as you think he is, why would the jazz bring in a Rubio ? Was it just because hearsay was that Hayward wanted him ? The jazz still wrestle and question Dante, thank goodness they aren't homers like you ? Exum still will be judged as a big question mark perhaps because he didn't show enough when healthy or because he has been hurt too much ? I think we would be in a better spot with drafting Lavine

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[Et tu Brute]

Not like I have an issue with it or with your view on Exum personally, but I think you may be the biggest Dante supporter on here. If exum was so great as you think he is, why would the jazz bring in a Rubio ? Was it just because hearsay was that Hayward wanted him ? The jazz still wrestle and question Dante, thank goodness they aren't homers like you ? Exum still will be judged as a big question mark perhaps because he didn't show enough when healthy or because he has been hurt too much ? I think we would be in a better spot with drafting Lavine

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I think Quin has been really slow to warm to Dante. Dante lacked (lacks) some fundamentals that hardened US high school and college players have. It's like Q couldn't relate to the rawness of Dante. Plus the Hayward situation etc, was a recipe for disaster.

Dude be honest with yourself. Has Dante ever been given the kind of freedom that Burke, Burks, Mitchell and EVEN LYLES was given?

All those guys have been given an opportunity to play to their strengths and play their position. Dante spent a helluva lot of time doing neither.

That's why this injury is even worse, because even the doubters (i.e. Quin) were keen to see Dante have an extended run at it.

I like Dante mainly because I believe he has an elite attribute. I'm not even sure DM does - but his off the dribble threes could become deadly.

How could you not love a guy that can get deep into the pain whenever he decides to. From there it is about reps - when to dish, when to take contact, when to finish with the left or right, when to dunk, when to take the little pull-up the defense gives etc.

And unlike you (seemingly) I think the FO can get it wrong. I still believe in Lyles tbh. But just because they brought in Rubio doesn't mean Dante can't make it.

Rubio is soooo lame it's unbelievable. His only offensive tool (passing) is being diminished in the pathetic 'gunner' role he is being enlisted to play now. What kind of genius coaching is it to take players away from their strengths and make them live in their weaknesses?? I mean that is some weird reverse psychology bs.

The Jazz have only themselves to blame (ok plus injuries) - they should have played Dante as an actual pg (you know, run plays etc) for a lot more minutes last year, and then they wouldn't be scratching their heads so much as to what they have in Exum.

 

[LogGrad98]

I think Quin has been really slow to warm to Dante. Dante lacked (lacks) some fundamentals that hardened US high school and college players have. It's like Q couldn't relate to the rawness of Dante. Plus the Hayward situation etc, was a recipe for disaster.

Dude be honest with yourself. Has Dante ever been given the kind of freedom that Burke, Burks, Mitchell and EVEN LYLES was given?

All those guys have been given an opportunity to play to their strengths and play their position. Dante spent a helluva lot of time doing neither.

That's why this injury is even worse, because even the doubters (i.e. Quin) were keen to see Dante have an extended run at it.

I like Dante mainly because I believe he has an elite attribute. I'm not even sure DM does - but his off the dribble threes could become deadly.

How could you not love a guy that can get deep into the pain whenever he decides to. From there it is about reps - when to dish, when to take contact, when to finish with the left or right, when to dunk, when to take the little pull-up the defense gives etc.

And unlike you (seemingly) I think the FO can get it wrong. I still believe in Lyles tbh. But just because they brought in Rubio doesn't mean Dante can't make it.

Rubio is soooo lame it's unbelievable. His only offensive tool (passing) is being diminished in the pathetic 'gunner' role he is being enlisted to play now. What kind of genius coaching is it to take players away from their strengths and make them live in their weaknesses?? I mean that is some weird reverse psychology bs.

The Jazz have only themselves to blame (ok plus injuries) - they should have played Dante as an actual pg (you know, run plays etc) for a lot more minutes last year, and then they wouldn't be scratching their heads so much as to what they have in Exum.

Maybe Exum just doesn't have the strengths everyone thinks he does. I mean, we haven't really seen much of it on the court at all. And as far as being given freedom, that is a load of crap. You earn your freedom on the court. They play into PT and getting the ball in crunch time. Mitchell was on a leash the first few games, but he stepped outside that and took the time he wanted. Exum never did that, always played timid, doesn't show any fire. I am not sure he will ever pan out the way people think.

 

[MVP]

Maybe Exum just doesn't have the strengths everyone thinks he does. I mean, we haven't really seen much of it on the court at all. And as far as being given freedom, that is a load of crap. You earn your freedom on the court. They play into PT and getting the ball in crunch time. Mitchell was on a leash the first few games, but he stepped outside that and took the time he wanted. Exum never did that, always played timid, doesn't show any fire. I am not sure he will ever pan out the way people think.

Careful bud, you may be named hater, douche, dick and coward.... How dare you doubt Exum's unquestionable "potential" and evaluate his game based on his rookie season!!! ( last season does not count as he was recovering from his surgery!). You should remember he was 5th pick and how great he looked in 3 summer league games playing vs best of the scrubs! And that he is the fastest/most explosive player in whole league who could get into paint at will! All hail Exum!!!

 

[Et tu Brute]

Careful bud, you may be named hater, douche, dick and coward.... How dare you doubt Exum's unquestionable "potential" and evaluate his game based on his rookie season!!! ( last season does not count as he was recovering from his surgery!). You should remember he was 5th pick and how great he looked in 3 summer league games playing vs best of the scrubs! And that he is the fastest/most explosive player in whole league who could get into paint at will! All hail Exum!!!

You missed out the bit where Dante's leash was tighter than the one your Mum has wrapped around your d###.
Also that he was parked in the corners and had his first ever plays drawn up for him in pre-season (OF THIS YEAR) - per Locke.

Your impersonation of an Exum homer needs some work bruh

 

[Ron Mexico]

Careful bud, you may be named hater, douche, dick and coward.... How dare you doubt Exum's unquestionable "potential" and evaluate his game based on his rookie season!!! ( last season does not count as he was recovering from his surgery!). You should remember he was 5th pick and how great he looked in 3 summer league games playing vs best of the scrubs! And that he is the fastest/most explosive player in whole league who could get into paint at will! All hail Exum!!!

We could go off of the fact that he started playing pretty well the second half of last season. Despite the fact that he was still recovering from ACL surgery and had a very inconsistent role and playing time. He got his first off season of work with the Jazz in his career and looked good to start this year in summer league and pre-season. Looked good and shot well in the playoffs when he got a chance, including against the starters of GS.

Oh, sorry I forgot you want to pretend you are "unbiased" and everyone who thinks he has a future is a homer.

 

[MVP]

We could go off of the fact that he started playing pretty well the second half of last season.
Oh, sorry I forgot you want to pretend you are "unbiased" and everyone who thinks he has a future is a homer.

He did not play well though.. Check 82games.com and their rating. Exum was dead last last year on the Jazz roster. I know you do not like numbers but I do. Numbers are truly unbiased.
http://www.82games.com/1617/1617UTA.HTM

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

He did not play well though.. Check 82games.com and their rating. Exum was dead last last year on the Jazz roster. I know you do not like numbers but I do. Numbers are truly unbiased.
http://www.82games.com/1617/1617UTA.HTM

You like numbers because you don't watch games.

Any dumbass knows that stats don't tell the whole story, and can sometimes be very misleading.

Well, any dumbass except for you, apparently.

Also, I'd like to point out again that last year you were really quiet about this, except for a few times when Exum played badly, you'd poke out your head to celebrate. Now that he is injured, you're really ****ing brave about talking **** when you know it will be a year before he plays a again.

You're a ****ing coward just like that punk who invaded Ukraine.

 

[MVP]

Also, I'd like to point out again that last year you were really quiet about this, except for a few times when Exum played badly, you'd poke out your head to celebrate. Now that he is injured, you're really ****ing brave about talking **** when you know it will be a year before he plays a again.

LMFAO. I have a personal follower who tracks my posts and activity since 2015 lol... Hey, about you tell me what I posted in 2011-2014? oh right you can't because you joined this site only after Exum was drafted. So you are really not even a Jazz fan but only Exum fan. Makes sense.

 

[Ron Mexico]

He did not play well though.. Check 82games.com and their rating. Exum was dead last last year on the Jazz roster. I know you do not like numbers but I do. Numbers are truly unbiased.
http://www.82games.com/1617/1617UTA.HTM

Those numbers show that Bolomboy was our best player last season and that Neto was better than Inlges, JJ, and a bunch of our team. Are those stats unbiased and correct as well?

I like numbers they tell part of the story, I also like to look at a variety of numbers not just one. Looking for a number you want to prove yourself correct is biased. I also understand that players are not recovered for about 2 years after ACL and that is why Exum started playing much better towards the end of the season.


But yes, Exum was poor to start the season and it took him awhile to get going.

 

[MVP]

Those numbers show that Bolomboy was our best player last season and that Neto was better than Inlges, JJ, and a bunch of our team. Are those stats unbiased and correct as well?

I like numbers they tell part of the story, I also like to look at a variety of numbers not just one. Looking for a number you want to prove yourself correct is biased. I also understand that players are not recovered for about 2 years after ACL and that is why Exum started playing much better towards the end of the season.


But yes, Exum was poor to start the season and it took him awhile to get going.

Come on man, you look at it and ignore that Bolomoboy only had 1% of minutes and Neto 9%? Look just at regular rotation guys who played at least 25% of minutes... it tells all the story - Gobert, Hayward, Hill and Ingles were the best as they have positive ranking, Exum, Mack and Lyles the worst - simple as that.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Come on man, you look at it and ignore that Bolomoboy only had 1% of minutes and Neto 9%? Look just at regular rotation guys who played at least 25% of minutes... it tells all the story - Gobert, Hayward, Hill and Ingles were the best as they have positive ranking, Exum, Mack and Lyles the worst - simple as that.

According to that one stat, that obviously has flaws as I pointed out. I also pointed out that he struggled coming back from a major injury and no off season training and got much better towards the end of the season and into the playoffs, when he was closer to healthy.

He got his first off season training with the Jazz and looked like it made a difference. You combated that statement with over stat over the entire season.

 

[MVP]

I hate NBA rule on stupid cylinder and interference. Time to adopt Fiba rules on putbacks!

 

[Diamond77]

Favors will move to an Eastern Conference team and he will become All-Star like Paul Millsap.

 

[Miggs]

Favors will move to an Eastern Conference team and he will become All-Star like Paul Millsap.

This.

I mean, his 14.5 points and 6.4 rebounds per 36 are so amazing.