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Who will replace Biden as candidate for POTUS

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One thing that could really benefit Harris and Whitmer would be their ability to lean into the GOPs efforts to restrict the reproductive rights of women. That's a winning issue for the Dems all day long.

I can't see Harris rallying people except for those on the right. She's been a historically unpopular VP. The 2nd amendment is a pretty big liability for her since she's been outspoken on gun laws. Kamala isn't Presidential at all that's why she's been off the radar. Whitmer would be a good choice though.

 
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I can't see Harris rallying people except for those on the right. She's not Presidential material in my opinion. On the 2nd amendment alone she'd lose. Whitmer would have a much better chance.
They are going to have to figure something out. Trump has large leads in the poll of all swing states. Trump is up by 6% nationally. 73% of registered democrats think Joe Biden is too old. Yet, with all of that, Joe Biden will win the election because of the changes made to the system. No GOP candidate can win a national election. If Joe Biden stays in, he will win even though his opponent has a 6% lead in the polls, and people will start asking questions.
 
They are going to have to figure something out. Trump has large leads in the poll of all swing states. Trump is up by 6% nationally. 73% of registered democrats think Joe Biden is too old. Yet, with all of that, Joe Biden will win the election because of the changes made to the system. No GOP candidate can win a national election. If Joe Biden stays in, he will win even though his opponent has a 6% lead in the polls, and people will start asking questions.

Dare I ask why a Republican can't win?
 
Dare I ask why a Republican can't win?
Because so many people who haven't voted at high rates historically are now included in our constitutional republic's democratic process and they aren't typically GOP voters. That's because until recently the GOP has had really good success suppressing their votes.

Wah
 
Dare I ask why a Republican can't win?
Because I've seen the system in action. The "emergency" changes in 2020 many states made to their voting systems using the pandemic as the claimed motivation were modeled on California Assembly Bill No. 1921 and California Voter’s Choice Act, both passed into law in 2016. In the very next election, in 2018, Orange County lost every single seat to Democrats. Orange County leans super-right and the republican incumbents were leading in the polls on the day of the election. The political landscape after Assembly Bill No. 1921 and California Voter’s Choice Act is almost unrecognizable to what was before it was put into place.

Not all states adopted these changes, but enough did that I don't see how a Republican can win even if they have a 10-point lead in the opinion polls, and because these changes are enshrined in law, it isn't fraud, it is simply the way the system works now. The US Constitution goes so far as to explicitly grant the states the power to do what they did so challenging it in court is pointless. It is just the way it is.
 
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Of these choices Mayor Pete would be my first choice. 42 years old. Very intelligent. Very well spoken. His gayness might make him lose though. I would still go with him anyway.
The former mayor of South Bend, Ind., Buttigieg, 42, was the breakout star of the 2020 Democratic presidential primary contest; he even won the Iowa caucuses. Some of his rise stemmed from his pioneering identity: If nominated, Buttigieg might have become the first openly gay president in U.S. history. But the bigger factor was his ability to craft and articulate a clear, concise, consistent message. As Biden’s transportation secretary, Buttigieg has honed his rhetorical skills while gaining valuable government experience.

My second choice would be Newsome. 56 years old. Looks the part. Charasmatic. Well spoken. His ties to california would probably hurt him too much (people hate california). I dont think he should be the choice despite the fact that I like him ok.
Newsom, 56, is the telegenic, smooth-talking governor of the most populous state in the country. In recent years, he has also fashioned himself as a national figure — the leading mouthpiece for anti-Trump, anti-MAGA liberals at a moment when, in his opinion, much of the rest of the Democratic Party has been falling short. He has debated Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, his GOP counterpart; he has raised money for red-state Dems; he has appeared on Fox News. If the key to beating Trump is winning the attention war, then Newsom is a step ahead of his fellow White House hopefuls.

My third choice would probably be whitmer. 52 years old. Im ready to see what a woman president could do. She has been very successful politically
She’s in charge of Michigan, perhaps the most important swing state. In the 2022 midterms — typically a tough time for members of the president’s party — Whitmer won reelection over her GOP challenger, a conservative media personality, by more than 10 percentage points, helping Democrats flip the state legislature. She then signed progressive laws on climate change, gay rights, guns and unions and positioned herself as a leading post-Roe crusader for abortion rights — while maintaining one of the highest net approval ratings of any battleground governor.

Those are the only ones I really know anything at all about besides Harris, who would be one of last choices and whom I dont like. Since I dont like her she will probably take bidens spot lol.

But I would vote for anyone over trump and biden at this point.

For those hoping for Michelle Obama this article has her as the least likely choice despite doing the best of anyone in head to head polls vs trump.
A post-debate Ipsos/Reuters poll found that the former first lady, 60, would trounce Trump 50% to 39% if the election were held today, making her the only Democrat on this list who would start the race with better-than-even odds of holding onto the Oval Office. That’s a testament to Obama’s enduring popularity — both her husband Barack’s, and her own.
Obama has no experience running for elective office. She has never been a political candidate. And more than that, she seems to despise the whole partisan process, having tried (and failed) to prevent her husband from running and subsequently “drilled into [her daughters] so early that you would be crazy to go into politics,” as Barack recently put it. The chances that Obama would sacrifice her hard-earned post-White House private life to mud wrestle with Trump are next to nil.
I love hearing Secretary Pete speak, he's probably the 4th best political orator (at least on the national stage) in my lifetime (behind Reagan, Clinton, and Obama), but he is such a corporatist that I stopped supporting him. It's probably likely that I would feel the same way about Newsome and Whittmer if I studied them at all.
 
Because so many people who haven't voted at high rates historically are now included in our constitutional republic's democratic process
Sorta. The changes affect the ratio of organic to ground-game votes. The changes empower the ground-game component to the point where it determines the winner even in cases where the opponent has a higher level of support.

As a side note, it really helps when the candidates are bad which causes voter enthusiasm to be low. The less inclined people are to vote on their own, the easier it is for the ground-gamers to control the outcome of the election.
 
You ever think that if Alt Left Democrats actually focused on their party and actual real life issues instead of psychotically obsess about arresting Trump for nothing like we see here that maybe the party wouldn't be in this position? Anyways I'm hearing there's a very doctored cut and pasted ABC interview where the Alt-Left fascist who arrest political opponents will probably fall for. It's embarrassing but that the alt-left fascist for ya... Here's a great read from New York Magazine.


1. Biden forgets things he shouldn't​

With age, everyone's memory slips. People lose the ability to remember insignificant details.

But the commander in chief — the most powerful man on the face of the planet — is forgetting the names of "longtime friends of the Biden family," according to Nuzzi.


"Those who encountered the president in social settings sometimes left their interactions disturbed.Longtime friends of the Biden family, who spoke to me on the condition of anonymity, were shocked to find that the president did not remember their names," she reported.

"At a White House event last year, a guest recalled, with horror, realizing that the president would not be able to stay for the reception because, it was clear, he would not be able to make it through the reception," she wrote. "The guest wasn’t sure they could vote for Biden, since the guest was now open to an idea that they had previously dismissed as right-wing propaganda: The president may not really be the acting president after all."

One source who witnessed an incident at the White House recently — in which first lady Jill Biden was forced to instruct Biden how to say "hello" to a Democratic mega-donor and family friend — told Nuzzi that Biden's decline has become exponentially worse.

"It hasn't been good for a long time, but it’s gotten so, so much worse," that witness said. "So much worse!"

2. People don't know who is in charge​

As the chief executive, the Constitution entrusts Biden with tremendous responsibility.

But Nuzzi's sources — again, well-connected Democrats — told her they are not sure who is actually in charge of the country.

Interestingly, Nuzzi reported that her sources have found themselves in "full agreement" with Donald Trump supporters on an idea that is otherwise dismissed as a conspiracy theory.

3. Biden's lifeless appearance​

Up close, the president looks like he is "something not of this earth," according to Nuzzi.

"Up close, the president does not look quite plausible. It's not that he's old. We all know what old looks like. Bernie Sanders is old. Mitch McConnell is old. Most of the ruling class is old. The president was something stranger, something not of this earth," Nuzzi revealed.

She made this conclusion after her most recent encounter with Biden — at the White House Correspondents' Dinner in April — during which the president couldn't remember her name despite knowing her.

"My heart stopped as I extended my hand to greet the president. I tried to make eye contact, but it was like his eyes, though open, were not on," she wrote.

 
Not voting for Trump because Project 2025 vastly increases the power of the presidency, something we do not need, and because the man does everything he can to bring out the darker angels of our human nature, and because he encourages his followers to treat as the enemy of America any fellow citizen who disagrees with him on any subject, thereby making Democrats a more dangerous enemy that our geopolitical adversaries, and because he promises to withdraw the US from NATO. Pretty sure I could go on…..but my feelings regarding broccoli would not be a factor.
More propaganda from Red. How utterly embarrassing and quite scary how people can literally make up propaganda and crazy conspiracies out of thin air and nobody ever questions them.

"I know nothing about Project 2025," Trump posted Friday on Truth Social. "I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they're saying and some of the things they're saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them."
 
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Yeah, no.

  • Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), who chaired the House Jan. 6 committee, told Axios' Hans Nichols that Harris is "incredibly strong ... You can't say Biden has done a good job without saying she's done a good job." For her to be pushed aside from consideration, he said, "would be the kiss of death for the party."
That’s obvious. Thats why the Axios article. Harris is the obvious choice, popular much, or not, I don’t think people will punish the Democrats for retiring Biden and backing Harris. She’s as good as any last minute candidate to help with the “don’t want Trump or Biden” mood in the country. At this point, no time for a power struggle. Put a good ticket together, with Harris at the top. But the general thought I had in mind is “whoever nominates someone different, will win the election”. Just back the VP, 2 months to campaign hard. It’s tough, but many will feel relief and not staying home on Nov. 5.
 
My response to this?: duh

I been saying this for a long long time

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I know. A great idea, but it didn’t seem like a real world option with Biden as the presumed candidate, until it was not only the best option, it became the only option, at least the more I think of it in this dire moment!
 
I love hearing Secretary Pete speak, he's probably the 4th best political orator (at least on the national stage) in my lifetime (behind Reagan, Clinton, and Obama), but he is such a corporatist that I stopped supporting him. It's probably likely that I would feel the same way about Newsome and Whittmer if I studied them at all.

Pete would be so refreshing. Smeone who could actually speak off the cuff and develop a thought.
 
I know. A great idea, but it didn’t seem like a real world option with Biden as the presumed candidate, until it was not only the best option, it became the only option, at least the more I think of it in this dire moment!
Interesting... Have I not been pushing for 3 years that you guys should focus on Biden and his massive failures instead of insanely obsessing about Trump? Have I not been nearly beat yo death around here for suggesting Biden is the worst and most racist bigoted and down right fascist President in our history?

If Trump wins you all deserve every little bit you get for sticking up for such a terrible president.
 
That’s obvious. Thats why the Axios article. Harris is the obvious choice, popular much, or not, I don’t think people will punish the Democrats for retiring Biden and backing Harris. She’s as good as any last minute candidate to help with the “don’t want Trump or Biden” mood in the country. At this point, no time for a power struggle. Put a good ticket together, with Harris at the top. But the general thought I had in mind is “whoever nominates someone different, will win the election”. Just back the VP, 2 months to campaign hard. It’s tough, but many will feel relief and not staying home on Nov. 5.

I think Harris would be the worst candidate of any of the top names. People just don't gravitate to her. I was interested in her during the 2020 primaries but she was a letdown. Nothing since has changed my mind. She was chosen by Biden for VP because she's a woman and black and that's about it. Democrats can't be trusted to make the choice, they should look at the polls.
 
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I love hearing Secretary Pete speak, he's probably the 4th best political orator (at least on the national stage) in my lifetime (behind Reagan, Clinton, and Obama), but he is such a corporatist that I stopped supporting him. It's probably likely that I would feel the same way about Newsome and Whittmer if I studied them at all.
Newsome is as well. He is an excellent orator though. I could get behind him if it's him or Trump though.
 
I think Harris would be the worst candidate of any of the top names. People just don't gravitate to her. I was interested in her during the 2020 primaries but she was a letdown. Nothing since has changed my mind. She was chosen by Biden for VP because she's a woman and black and that's about it. Democrats can't be trusted to make the choice, they should look at the polls.
This. She'd be the one offering the left could make that would lose soundly to Trump. Literally anyone else would be more viable.
 
Lol Kamala. Democrats are just dumb lol. I understand polls are nothing but Kamala is more braindead than Biden and it's even remotely close. That seems impossible but look who voted for her, she does fit the bill of her constituents.

Daily Mail Poll: Trump Leads Kamala Harris by 11 Points​

Republican presumptive nominee Donald Trump leads Vice President Kamala Harris by 11 points in a hypothetical head-to-head presidential election matchup, according to a new Daily Mail poll.
 
They are going to have to figure something out. Trump has large leads in the poll of all swing states. Trump is up by 6% nationally. 73% of registered democrats think Joe Biden is too old. Yet, with all of that, Joe Biden will win the election because of the changes made to the system. No GOP candidate can win a national election. If Joe Biden stays in, he will win even though his opponent has a 6% lead in the polls, and people will start asking questions.
Like when Hilary was killing trump in all the polls prior to Trump's election win.

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