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Why Tomic > Kanter

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Ante Tomic said at 28 this is his last train to the NBA.
The Croatian big man may go overseas after the season and join the Jazz who own his rights in the association.

Ante Tomic is also talking with Barcelona to extend his contract but he doesn’t want to decide now his future.

“My future? All the doors are open. Everything is possible. At 28, right now this is my last train to the NBA. But I don’t know anything about it. I have some options but I don’t want to decide it now” said Tomic to El Mundo Deportivo. “I am talking with Barcelona to extend my contract. But there is also the NBA. We’ll see what happens after the season” added the Croatian big man. “I don’t have a deadline to decide my future”.
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https://www.sportando.com/en/europe...i-am-28-this-is-my-last-train-to-the-nba.html
 
I am 95% confident that he's jumping over.

He has accomplished almost everything that there is to be accomplished in Europe. If he flames out in the NBA, he can come back to Europe & still find several teams who would want him. Hell, probably even Barcelona.

The dude is an absolute monster. Ranked among the Top 10 players in the Euroleague in 11 different categories, and Top 5 in six different categories
 
dalamon said:
I am 95% confident that he's jumping over.

He has accomplished almost everything that there is to be accomplished in Europe. If he flames out in the NBA, he can come back to Europe & still find several teams who would want him. Hell, probably even Barcelona.

The dude is an absolute monster. Ranked among the Top 10 players in the Euroleague in 11 different categories, and Top 5 in six different categories
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I hope you are right... Seems like he'd be a major contributor from day one. Our bench is pretty sorry right now.
 
There is not a single center in free agency this coming summer that I would rather want on this squad. He's just such a perfect fit for this team. I'm sure Dennis is salivating at the thought of bringing Tomic over.

Can you ****ing imagine? Our 7'1" center would be backed up by a ****ing 7'2" center. With Favors at the 4. Who in this league could match up with our height?
 
dalamon said:
There is not a single center in free agency this coming summer that I would rather want on this squad. He's just such a perfect fit for this team. I'm sure Dennis is salivating at the thought of bringing Tomic over.

Can you ****ing imagine? Our 7'1" center would be backed up by a ****ing 7'2" center. With Favors at the 4. Who in this league could match up with our height?
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When I watch him I just keep seeing a skinny Pau. We gotta get him over here.
 
At least Tomic is confirming this will be his last chance for the NBA. So if he does come over great. If not, at least we can move on and put this guy in our rearview mirror.

I wish I shared Dalamon's optimism; but why come over and play back-up minutes in the NBA when you can be the top dog in Spain. That was Raul Lopez' thinking - and that was 10 years ago. The quality of play and lifestyle for the players in Europe since then has only gotten better.

Who knows - I see the Euro is down to 1.06 and falling. Maybe he sees US money as a better return for his skills in the next couple of years (yes I'm grasping at straws)
 
candrew said:
At least Tomic is confirming this will be his last chance for the NBA. So if he does come over great. If not, at least we can move on and put this guy in our rearview mirror.

I wish I shared Dalamon's optimism; but why come over and play back-up minutes in the NBA when you can be the top dog in Spain. That was Raul Lopez' thinking - and that was 10 years ago. The quality of play and lifestyle for the players in Europe since then has only gotten better.

Who knows - I see the Euro is down to 1.06 and falling. Maybe he sees US money as a better return for his skills in the next couple of years (yes I'm grasping at straws)
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But Raul's case was different. He had two serious injuries that limited his potential in the NBA. Tomic is in the prime of his career and why wouldn't he want to come to the NBA? He's probably a better offensive player than Favors -- for sure, a better outside shooter. Imagine him and Rudy playing together?
 
candrew said:
At least Tomic is confirming this will be his last chance for the NBA. So if he does come over great. If not, at least we can move on and put this guy in our rearview mirror.

I wish I shared Dalamon's optimism; but why come over and play back-up minutes in the NBA when you can be the top dog in Spain. That was Raul Lopez' thinking - and that was 10 years ago. The quality of play and lifestyle for the players in Europe since then has only gotten better.

Who knows - I see the Euro is down to 1.06 and falling. Maybe he sees US money as a better return for his skills in the next couple of years (yes I'm grasping at straws)
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Its more than just a "back up role". He will play a major part in what we do next year. He may not start, but he should get the same mins here as he would there.
The Jazz playing better as of late has to entice him more. He can be apart of a young exciting playoff hopeful team next year. He can be a leader on this team.
 
Winning right now is helping our cause to get him over here. I dont think he would want to come over and be apart of a losing/tanking team. Hopefully Jazz FO can show him that we are going to be a playoff team and he could be a major part of that.
 
Dumb Bloke said:
The thread title is Tomic > Kanter. What are you on about mate?
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Love him or hate him, he's inconsistent. Another mental case, another Andrei Kirilenko.

I loved me some AK47. Only Jazz Jersey I've payed money for. But he wasn't worth a max contract after his rookie scale. The only thing Kanter did better than AK in his third season(contract season) was play 2 more games(78 to 80). Kanter avg'd 4.2 less points, 1.5 less steals, 2.3 less blocks, .6 fewer rebounds, 6% lower FT% and Kanter had only two less shots per game.
 
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candrew said:
At least Tomic is confirming this will be his last chance for the NBA. So if he does come over great. If not, at least we can move on and put this guy in our rearview mirror.

I wish I shared Dalamon's optimism; but why come over and play back-up minutes in the NBA when you can be the top dog in Spain. That was Raul Lopez' thinking - and that was 10 years ago. The quality of play and lifestyle for the players in Europe since then has only gotten better.

Who knows - I see the Euro is down to 1.06 and falling. Maybe he sees US money as a better return for his skills in the next couple of years (yes I'm grasping at straws)
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NBA earning potential (even on his "rookie" contract) is much, much higher than he can make in Europe. If Tomic comes over and plays really, really well his first 3 years, the money he can make on his 2nd NBA contract (after the jump in salary cap) is ASTRONOMICAL compared to what he can make in Europe. If the Jazz want him, they offer him the clearest opportunity to reach that. The fact that Quin Snyder reportedly wants him here makes the possibility that he jumps to the U.S. much more likely.

Timing couldn't be better to make it happen. For that reason, I think it will. Hope it will. I think Tomic would replace Kanter's role on the team better than any other free agent (for a fraction of the cost) or rookie (who will take years to develop.) The window for success is open. The Jazz need to maximize the quality of the bench to aspire for playoff success.
 
Ellis269 said:
NBA earning potential (even on his "rookie" contract) is much, much higher than he can make in Europe. If Tomic comes over and plays really, really well his first 3 years, the money he can make on his 2nd NBA contract (after the jump in salary cap) is ASTRONOMICAL compared to what he can make in Europe. If the Jazz want him, they offer him the clearest opportunity to reach that. The fact that Quin Snyder reportedly wants him here makes the possibility that he jumps to the U.S. much more likely.

Timing couldn't be better to make it happen. For that reason, I think it will. Hope it will. I think Tomic would replace Kanter's role on the team better than any other free agent (for a fraction of the cost) or rookie (who will take years to develop.) The window for success is open. The Jazz need to maximize the quality of the bench to aspire for playoff success.
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I hear you - but if it was about money I think he would have been here by now.
 
Ellis269 said:
NBA earning potential (even on his "rookie" contract) is much, much higher than he can make in Europe. If Tomic comes over and plays really, really well his first 3 years, the money he can make on his 2nd NBA contract (after the jump in salary cap) is ASTRONOMICAL compared to what he can make in Europe. If the Jazz want him, they offer him the clearest opportunity to reach that. The fact that Quin Snyder reportedly wants him here makes the possibility that he jumps to the U.S. much more likely.

Timing couldn't be better to make it happen. For that reason, I think it will. Hope it will. I think Tomic would replace Kanter's role on the team better than any other free agent (for a fraction of the cost) or rookie (who will take years to develop.) The window for success is open. The Jazz need to maximize the quality of the bench to aspire for playoff success.
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I believe he could make up to mid level money on his first contract. If i remember correctly with Mirotic that was the max he could make. Might be wrong though. :):p
 
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