Will NYK picks be more valuable the Lakers picks?

[Handlogten's Heros]

Think about it.... If we trade Don to NY and they have Brunson, RJ and some other stuff... are their picks going to be more likely to be higher than the Lakers picks. LA doesn't own their own picks until 27 and 29. Lebron is old... AD is fragile... it may be scorched earth in 27/29... choose wisely.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Think about it.... If we trade Don to NY and they have Brunson, RJ and some other stuff... are their picks going to be more likely to be higher than the Lakers picks. LA doesn't own their own picks until 27 and 29. Lebron is old... AD is fragile... it may be scorched earth in 27/29... choose wisely.

Somehow, even if they had prime Jordan and prime LBJ, somehow the Knicks still figure out how to lose. Lmao it’s the Knicks. And now they going to win with RJ Brunson and Mitchell and no defense?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Somehow, even if they had prime Jordan and prime LBJ, somehow the Knicks still figure out how to lose. Lmao it’s the Knicks. And now they going to win with RJ Brunson and Mitchell and no defense?

Go look at the Lakers record in between Kobe and Lebron... that is where they are headed. No good young players and no draft capital. They are relying on being a FA destination in 27-29 and that did not work out for them until Lebron said yes.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

After Kobe retired the Lakers won 27, 21, 17, 26, 35, 37 games and drafted 7th, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 10th (but it went to Philly), 4th.

Lebron has how many good years left 2-3?

 

[infection]

Just get both and we won’t have to worry. Or we could combine the NY and MIA deals where we get all the picks and NY and MIA get to split DM like the NYers who spend their winters in Florida. Or they could say NY gets him for the regular season and MIA gets him for the playoffs. I don’t care. They can figure out the details, just send the picks our way.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

After Kobe retired the Lakers won 27, 21, 17, 26, 35, 37 games and drafted 7th, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 10th (but it went to Philly), 4th.

Lebron has how many good years left 2-3?

Wait, they drafted #2 three years in a row? I know Ball/Ingram are two of those, but who was the 3rd?

 

[PresidioTrojan]

Wait, they drafted #2 three years in a row? I know Ball/Ingram are two of those, but who was the 3rd?

D'Angelo Russell in 2015.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Just get both and we won’t have to worry. Or we could combine the NY and MIA deals where we get all the picks and NY and MIA get to split DM like the NYers who spend their winters in Florida. Or they could say NY gets him for the regular season and MIA gets him for the playoffs. I don’t care. They can figure out the details, just send the picks our way.

It may not be an either/or but if you had to choose 1 I am pretty sure I picked the Lakers. Look at where they are headed... not where they are. History tells us both have a good chance at being okay. The Knicks have a history of choosing to be a 30-40 win team though... so the upside may not be as sharp.

I think you need to overwhelm the Lakers to get those picks. I think Lebron is starting to get grumbly. Look at their roster... the next best player on their roster after Westbrook is who? If the Donovan trade to Toronto (if they are even interested) might net the guy in Trent Jr. that puts you over the top in an overwhelming offer. We might already have the goods to do it... I'd prioritize getting those picks now and making a Westbrook trade since Knicks want to play hardball.

 

[LogGrad98]

Wait, they drafted #2 three years in a row? I know Ball/Ingram are two of those, but who was the 3rd?

D'Angelo Russell in 2015.

THREE #2's and not a franchise player among them. Sure some nice players, but no one that is going to carry a championship team or be in the MVP discussions. Man. Makes me wary for our next few years, regardless of how good our picks are.

Of course the Lakers parlayed that into a ring with LeBum, but we don't have that kind of clout. We would just end up in exactly the boat we are in now, moving our primary pieces for picks to try to get better primary pieces. Ugh. I sure hope we do better than that.

 

[Elizah Huge]

It may not be an either/or but if you had to choose 1 I am pretty sure I picked the Lakers. Look at where they are headed... not where they are. History tells us both have a good chance at being okay. The Knicks have a history of choosing to be a 30-40 win team though... so the upside may not be as sharp.

I think you need to overwhelm the Lakers to get those picks. I think Lebron is starting to get grumbly. Look at their roster... the next best player on their roster after Westbrook is who? If the Donovan trade to Toronto (if they are even interested) might net the guy in Trent Jr. that puts you over the top in an overwhelming offer. We might already have the goods to do it... I'd prioritize getting those picks now and making a Westbrook trade since Knicks want to play hardball.

I would even take their 2028 unprotected 1st and 27/29 pick swaps. Make it so we can swap the Minnesota pick those years as well if we want to.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

THREE #2's and not a franchise player among them. Sure some nice players, but no one that is going to carry a championship team or be in the MVP discussions. Man. Makes me wary for our next few years, regardless of how good our picks are.

Of course the Lakers parlayed that into a ring with LeBum, but we don't have that kind of clout. We would just end up in exactly the boat we are in now, moving our primary pieces for picks to try to get better primary pieces. Ugh. I sure hope we do better than that.

Ingram is definitely a franchise player.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Ingram is definitely a franchise player.

This and they were able to trade all of them for a top-5 player.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

THREE #2's and not a franchise player among them. Sure some nice players, but no one that is going to carry a championship team or be in the MVP discussions. Man. Makes me wary for our next few years, regardless of how good our picks are.

Of course the Lakers parlayed that into a ring with LeBum, but we don't have that kind of clout. We would just end up in exactly the boat we are in now, moving our primary pieces for picks to try to get better primary pieces. Ugh. I sure hope we do better than that.

It isn't who they take its who they could have taken. Russell was kinda the best option unless you count Zinger... but the passed on Tatum for Ball. The other picks they gave away turned into Mikal Bridges and DeAndre Hunter (could have been Garland though).

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

THREE #2's and not a franchise player among them. Sure some nice players, but no one that is going to carry a championship team or be in the MVP discussions. Man. Makes me wary for our next few years, regardless of how good our picks are.

Of course the Lakers parlayed that into a ring with LeBum, but we don't have that kind of clout. We would just end up in exactly the boat we are in now, moving our primary pieces for picks to try to get better primary pieces. Ugh. I sure hope we do better than that.

Also, this is why you stack picks. If you nail 2 out of 3 top 5 picks in the tanking years and then hit on one of the other 5-6 that are later in the first you are on to something great. If you hit 1 out of 3 then nail 2 of the other 5-6 and you are good. Can trade for a 3rd piece with the additional capital.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I liked the idea of acquiring Suns picks if the Suns were going to build around a 37 year-old Chris Paul and a 34 year-old KD, while losing Ayton, Bridges and Cam Johnson in the process. That's a house of cards.

I think that's an idea worth exploring. I might facilitate Ben Simmons to the Lakers, while taking back Westbrook, if we can move Donovan to BRK and put that deal on the table.

 

[jazzfanWA]

After Kobe retired the Lakers won 27, 21, 17, 26, 35, 37 games and drafted 7th, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 10th (but it went to Philly), 4th.

Lebron has how many good years left 2-3?

When he plays he will still be good for 2-3 years. He is going to miss a lot of games over that time.

 

[LogGrad98]

Ingram is definitely a franchise player.

Borderline.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Go look at the Lakers record in between Kobe and Lebron... that is where they are headed. No good young players and no draft capital. They are relying on being a FA destination in 27-29 and that did not work out for them until Lebron said yes.

Yeah but that period of time was only three years.

To your point, however, there is a definite lack of draft capital to rebuild with. And you kinda really need some rookie scale players just to fill a roster out unless you monopolize all the decent ring chasers.

All that being said, as long as James Dolan owns the Knicks I think they are doomed. What separates the Lakers and the Knicks is not ownership, it’s the recency of success and the weather which are both significant draws. And that New York is a **** hole full of **** hole people.

 

[LogGrad98]

It isn't who they take its who they could have taken. Russell was kinda the best option unless you count Zinger... but the passed on Tatum for Ball. The other picks they gave away turned into Mikal Bridges and DeAndre Hunter (could have been Garland though).

Yeah but that's just it. Who do we pass on to take whoever we do. The odds are stacked against all team to get the one guy in the draft with the potential to be an MVP, think Giannis and how many passed on him. I mean don't get me wrong, I would much rather have the higher picks and the more we can stockpile the better. My expectations are just tempered, that's all.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah but that period of time was three years.

To your point, however, there is a definite lack of draft capital to rebuild with. And you kinda really need some rookie scale players just to fill a roster out unless you monopolize all the decent ring chasers.

NOP controls their draft right now... they need to talk a mega star into signing outright in 2025 or 2026 to be good in 27-29. I'm telling yall... the Lakers picks will be better than the Knicks picks.