Its why I think I'd move Bogey first and then see if there is a deal later for Favs. Some team will miss on their guy... I just don't know that the Knicks are willing to use up some space on Favs right now... they might be later.I'm praying that we can swindle the Knicks. Obviously Thibs had a great year last season, but he's still Thibs. He might be one of the few FO guys who still see's value in Favors and he would definitely see value in Bogey. Jazz got to make something work here or with NOP.
I salary cut mandate is difficult, but if it has to be done please get creative and don't just send Favors to OKC.
Bro, the guy we select at 56 was the guy we were going to take at 30. He was top 5 on our big board and we pay him less, as we saw last year how important it is to pay a little less on your draft pick to duck the tax.I’m ready for Locke to talk about how great a deal it was to trade Favs and 30 to Charlotte for 56/57… they got the guys they wanted anyway.
Gonna be interesting. Hopefully something good shakes loose rather than something ******.
I keep thinking we can do something with OKC but they also seem to win every effing deal... there are already reports they might be able to move Kemba for additional draft stuff... he hasn't played a game yet and they are increasing his value.While we're at it:
- I can't see OKC keeping all six of their picks (you can only draft and stash so many INTL peeps)
- I think the Pels will package some of their 2nd's to move up
- Nobody's talking about it, but Brooklyn has four picks with no cap space and would probably love to shuffle some of those 2nd's into future picks
That just barely reminded me that we jettisoned #23 last year to them for #27 and #38 and they turned around and sold it for #25 and #33.I keep thinking we can do something with OKC but they also seem to win every effing deal... there are already reports they might be able to move Kemba for additional draft stuff... he hasn't played a game yet and they are increasing his value.
That was with NY though.That just barely reminded me that we jettisoned #23 last year to them for #27 and #38 and they turned around and sold it for #25 and #33.
Thanks Dennis.
It was more of the 'losing trades' part.That was with NY though.
Trading Bojan, 30 for Knicks 19 and 21 looks good. But I want someone more useful than Knox in return. Like Quickley. Have him grow next to JC for a couple of years then we can maybe trade JC's expiring once Quickley is fully ready to take on that sixth man role.
Quickley is still developing as a player and can be extremely frustrating to watch at times. For someone as stubborn as Thib, wouldn't be surprised for him to go against Knicks fan base and trade him for a more polished player like Bogey. Would they give us both #19 and #21 is the concern here IMO.NY isn't going to trade us Quickley at close to that price.
Quickley is still developing as a player and can be extremely frustrating to watch at times. For someone as stubborn as Thib, wouldn't be surprised for him to go against Knicks fan base and trade him for a more polished player like Bogey. Would they give us both #19 and #21 is the concern here IMO.
Just curious where you think value lies in this scenario (not that the Jazz should consider it, there are surely better options) -- trying to gauge what it costs to deal with OKC these days:I keep thinking we can do something with OKC but they also seem to win every effing deal... there are already reports they might be able to move Kemba for additional draft stuff... he hasn't played a game yet and they are increasing his value.
Just curious where you think value lies in this scenario (not that the Jazz should consider it, there are surely better options) -- trying to gauge what it costs to deal with OKC these days:
Ingles and Bogey to OKC for Kenrich Williams and Gabriel Deck. Would save Jazz about $25 million. Combined with offloading Favors may allow for use of full MLE, if I'm not mistaken, along with re-signing Conley.
What kind of draft picks should be attached to the deal (flowing in what direction)?