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[The Thriller]

It's blank now because the tweet was removed. But it worked for me when I saw @The Thriller's post earlier. Here's an article about it for you: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump...eapons-kim-jong-un-dissed-joe-biden-for-me-22

Doesn't surprise me that a grown-up made Trump remove a tweet praising Kim Jong Un for mocking "Joe Bidan" instead of being concerned about North Korea's recent weapons testing.

Correct. Trump tried to “cover-up” his earlier tweet but fortunately there were plenty of screenshots taken. The content still doesn’t change. He’s flirting with one of the world’s worst dictators and praising him for mocking a political opponent.

For those who think trump is unjustly criticized, anyone want to guess how the right would’ve reacted if Obama had done the same thing? Imagine Obama in 2011-2012 flirting with the leaders of Iran and praising them for insulting Romney. How would republicans have responded?

 

[Gameface]

Where was all this outrage when the Bush administration invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, gave everyone's personal communications to the NSA, and handed over more than $1 trillion in taxpayer funds to insolvent banks?

There was a lot of outrage, sorry you missed it.

 

[The Thriller]

Thanks for the advice (and the patronizing rant), but I don't think what gets talked about on this message board forum has much relevance wrt whether or not Trump will get reelected.

Also you don't seem to have a great understanding of why obstruction of justice is considered such a serious offense. Most of the times it is successfully prosecuted the original underlying crime is not because of, wait for it, the obstruction of justice. The idea that presidents should be free to interfere with any investigations they find personally unfounded is a pretty ****ing bad precedent for a healthy democracy.

Remember when Bush called for executing the former head of the FBI? Or when he praised a foreign dictator for trashing Kerry? You libs and your faux outrage...

 

[The Thriller]

There was a lot of outrage, sorry you missed it.

Right? It’s like he missed that entire 2008-2012 era of protests in the streets and town halls including the tea party and occupy Wall Street.

Catchall and the rest of the Trumpers here (and beyond) are Ignorant cultist rubes. The sooner they seek medical attention to detox from populist hate and trump cult adoration, the better.

“But Thrill! You need to seek the understanding of ignorant rubes. They’re true Americans who just need to be pandered and coddled to. They’ll eventually be happy if we coddle them enough and give them whatever they want, like farm handouts, conservative judges, and control over all 3 branches of government. The support a demagogue because they’re just misunderstood. Let’s have cnn interview yet another red hat at some rural diner.”

Sigh

 

[The Thriller]

Jay Nordlinger isn’t a liberal... he’s the senior editor for the National Review...

 

[fishonjazz]

Where was all this outrage when the Bush administration invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, gave everyone's personal communications to the NSA, and handed over more than $1 trillion in taxpayer funds to insolvent banks?

I remember TONS of outrage over iraq. But why does past outrage matter to you?


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[fishonjazz]

It just seems absurd this daily drum beat of faux outrage over every little thing that Trump does or doesn't do.

Trumps faux outrage over every little thing any democrat says or does seems absurd to me.


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[fishonjazz]

. You guys need to understand that this is the same pettiness and obvious media bias that galvanized Republicans and Independents to elect Trump in the first place.

Its absurd to me that republicans felt picked on so they were like “we dont like trump and know he is a piece of **** and would make a horrible president so we are going to elect him just to show the democrats what happens when they pick on us!”

Pretty damn absurd lol.


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[The Thriller]

Its absurd to me that republicans felt picked on so they were like “we dont like trump and know he is a piece of **** and would make a horrible president so we are going to elect him just to show the democrats what happens when they pick on us!”

Pretty damn absurd lol.


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And they dare call others snowflakes?

But even if this were true, that a bunch of republicans and rural rubes got their feeling hurt so they decided to **** the system, they’d for sure be happy and not as angry today, right? After all, trump nation has had control of all levers of government for most of the past 2 years, right? So theoretically, they should be happier and less angry today, right?



Last thought, if republicans with fragile egos and hurt fweelings really was the cause of trump, they still have got to be pretty angry over tweets where he praises dictators like Kim, right? I mean, Kim literally has concentration camps, tortures his own people, and owns nukes. You’d have to be a pretty ****** person to excuse an American president kissing Kim’s ***, right? And at that point, maybe it’s not your fragile ego that caused you to vote for trump, but your own lack of character?

 

[The Thriller]

Why hasn’t anyone answered my question?

How would republicans have reacted if Obama had done what trump just did? How would republicans have reacted if Obama had praised the ayatollah for bashing his republican political opponent? And brushed off the firing of missiles as some sort of signal to him? What would republicans be doing?

 

[fishonjazz]

Why hasn’t anyone answered my question?

How would republicans have reacted if Obama had done what trump just did? How would republicans have reacted if Obama had praised the ayatollah for bashing his republican political opponent? And brushed off the firing of missiles as some sort of signal to him? What would republicans be doing?

Poorly.

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[The Thriller]

Poorly.

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Oh really? What do you have against trump? The economy and judges and abortion!

You libtard snowflake.

Where was your outrage when the 2008 bailout happened? Where was your outrage when Kennedy appeased the Ruskies and removed missiles from turkey? Where was your outrage when Teddy Roosevelt appeaser Japan by negotiating a peace treaty between Russia and japan thereby giving japan control of the Korean Peninsula as long as they left the Philippines alone to us? Where was your outrage when Jackson removed the Indians in Georgia?

You libs love your double standards and faux outrage. It’s like trump is the only person who gets criticism from the left. And it’s all so fake!

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I remember TONS of outrage over iraq. But why does past outrage matter to you?

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Because compared to Bush Jr., Trump is a fine President, and yet people can't complain enough about Trump. The amount of protests and scathing criticism that Democrats and the media have thrown at Trump is reaching epic proportions, while most of it isn't based on anything real, other than his self-infatuated demeanor and the fact that he pressed to have Mueller fired. Few, if any, Democrats were calling for Bush's impeachment--though I suppose getting rid of Bush would have put Cheney in the presidency (something that was already in effect anyway).

The real cultural divide in the country is related to social liberalism vs. conservatism, and that's what's got liberals up in arms 24/7. Trump is unabashedly pushing a conservative agenda. He's got Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnel working in lockstep with him. Trump makes an easy scapegoat.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Trumps faux outrage over every little thing any democrat says or does seems absurd to me.

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The Dems and a faction within the intelligence community (affectionately called the 'deep state') have been baselessly attacking Trump since before he even took office. They've been trying to have him removed any way they can because he's kowtowing their agenda. He has every reason to be upset with them and, ultimately, to expose them, something that he appears to be doing.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Its absurd to me that republicans felt picked on so they were like “we dont like trump and know he is a piece of **** and would make a horrible president so we are going to elect him just to show the democrats what happens when they pick on us!”

Pretty damn absurd lol.

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That's not what happened. First of all, I'm not Republican. Second, I didn't vote in the last election. The people who elected Trump did so to repudiate a number of things that had happened under the Obama, including nationalized healthcare, loose immigration policies, the Supreme Court that was becoming ever more liberal, and Hillary herself, who was seen as a disingenuous and cynical candidate with no clear message other than "I'm with her." It didn't help that the Clinton Foundation had a reputation for being terribly corrupt. It was a perfect storm that got Trump elected, and it wouldn't have happened if he didn't have support from independents, blacks, a number of women, and more hispanics than you might think.

 

[The Thriller]

Because compared to Bush Jr., Trump is a fine President, and yet people can't complain enough about Trump. The amount of protests and scathing criticism that Democrats and the media have thrown at Trump is reaching epic proportions, while most of it isn't based on anything real, other than his self-infatuated demeanor and the fact that he pressed to have Mueller fired. Few, if any, Democrats were calling for Bush's impeachment--though I suppose getting rid of Bush would have put Cheney in the presidency (something that was already in effect anyway).

The real cultural divide in the country is related to social liberalism vs. conservatism, and that's what's got liberals up in arms 24/7. Trump is unabashedly pushing a conservative agenda. He's got Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnel working in lockstep with him. Trump makes an easy scapegoat.

Trump is pushing a conservative agenda? What you’re doing comedy now?

He’s pushing big government intervention in health care and women’s rights. That’s conservative?

He’s pushing government handouts/bailouts to farmers. That’s conservative?

He’s pushing a centralized command economy with tariffs on foreign goods and protectionist immigration policy. That’s conservative?

He’s blowing through laws, rules, and democratic norms. Abusing executive privilege and Demanding others to refuse subpoenas. That’s conservative?

His foreign policy is an incoherent mess. The only thing consistent with it is his adoration for the world’s worst dictators. That’s conservative?

Everyday he puts himself first. Lies endlessly and embarrasses our country. He clearly has engaged in cover-ups of crimes, campaign violations, and affairs. He refuses to protect our country against our greatest threats. That’s conservative?

Catchall, you clearly have no idea what our country’s fault lines are and although I’m not a conservative, but I’m pretty certain that the conservatives on this board would agree with me that very little of trump’s agenda can be regarded as traditionally “conservative.”

 

[The Thriller]

The Dems and a faction within the intelligence community (affectionately called the 'deep state') have been baselessly attacking Trump since before he even took office. They've been trying to have him removed any way they can because he's kowtowing their agenda. He has every reason to be upset with them and, ultimately, to expose them, something that he appears to be doing.

Deep state... eye roll

Attacking American law enforcement and intelligence for doing their jobs, that’s conservative?

I’m done arguing with idiots today

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Trump is pushing a conservative agenda? What you’re doing comedy now?

He’s pushing big government intervention in health care and women’s rights. That’s conservative?

He’s pushing government handouts/bailouts to farmers. That’s conservative?

He’s pushing a centralized command economy with tariffs on foreign goods and protectionist immigration policy. That’s conservative?

He’s blowing through laws, rules, and democratic norms. Abusing executive privilege and Demanding others to refuse subpoenas. That’s conservative?

His foreign policy is an incoherent mess. The only thing consistent with it is his adoration for the world’s worst dictators. That’s conservative?

Everyday he puts himself first. Lies endlessly and embarrasses our country. He clearly has engaged in cover-ups of crimes, campaign violations, and affairs. He refuses to protect our country against our greatest threats. That’s conservative?

Catchall, you clearly have no idea what our country’s fault lines are and although I’m not a conservative, but I’m pretty certain that the conservatives on this board would agree with me that very little of trump’s agenda can be regarded as traditionally “conservative.”

He's not pushing big government intervention in healthcare. He's revisiting whether an unborn child acquires the right to live during the pregnancy. That is conservative. He's trying to dismantle government-controlled healthcare.
He's compensating farmers in the face of foreign tariffs in order to protect them. That may or may not be conservative, but it isn't bowing to China in bi-lateral trade negotiations. If anything, it's a nationalist policy.
He has executive privilege and hasn't been shown the subpoenas have a legitimate purpose after the 2-year Mueller investigation was shown to be a ruse. This is the advice the White House counsel is giving him. Beyond this, he's given the attorney general and the Justice Department free rein to do their jobs.
He refuses to protect the country against its greatest threats? Like who? North Korea? China? Isis?
Trump is more conservative that Hillary, to be sure, who was the only other option on the ballot. If you want to apply a label, you might call him a nationalist, but he's clearly to the right of Obama and Hillary.

Calling people who don't hate and insult Trump on a daily basis (like a few of you do) "idiots" is childish. You're welcome to vent your vitriol as much as you like. I can just put you on ignore. I'm just pointing out why your group has being losing politically, and why it's likely to continue to do so. I can assure you that I'm not an idiot, and that many people who elected and support Trump aren't idiots either.

 

[fishonjazz]

Because compared to Bush Jr., Trump is a fine President, and yet people can't complain enough about Trump. The amount of protests and scathing criticism that Democrats and the media have thrown at Trump is reaching epic proportions, while most of it isn't based on anything real, other than his self-infatuated demeanor and the fact that he pressed to have Mueller fired. Few, if any, Democrats were calling for Bush's impeachment--though I suppose getting rid of Bush would have put Cheney in the presidency (something that was already in effect anyway).

The real cultural divide in the country is related to social liberalism vs. conservatism, and that's what's got liberals up in arms 24/7. Trump is unabashedly pushing a conservative agenda. He's got Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnel working in lockstep with him. Trump makes an easy scapegoat.

Trump demeanor is a huge, probably the main, reason for his detractors criticisms. And rightfully so.

Having a scumbag, moronic, idiotic, petty, classless, dishonest, unqualified, inexperienced, childish, douchebag as the president is enough to tell me that he SHOULD BE the most criticized and scrutinized president in history.

He made his bed by acting the way he does. Now he has to lie in it.
He could try to change. But he won't. **** him.

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[fishonjazz]

Because compared to Bush Jr., Trump is a fine President, and yet people can't complain enough about Trump. The amount of protests and scathing criticism that Democrats and the media have thrown at Trump is reaching epic proportions, while most of it isn't based on anything real, other than his self-infatuated demeanor and the fact that he pressed to have Mueller fired. Few, if any, Democrats were calling for Bush's impeachment--though I suppose getting rid of Bush would have put Cheney in the presidency (something that was already in effect anyway).

The real cultural divide in the country is related to social liberalism vs. conservatism, and that's what's got liberals up in arms 24/7. Trump is unabashedly pushing a conservative agenda. He's got Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnel working in lockstep with him. Trump makes an easy scapegoat.

Also, you say the Democrats and the media are the ones doing the protesting and critizing. That's false. I know conservatives and Republicans who also recognize Trump for the worthless piece of **** that he is and hate that he is president.
Colton certainty does.

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