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Would you make Mack available to Cavs?

idiot said:
According to reports out of Cleveland, the Cavs are in negotiations with an unnamed team to acquire another PG. It seems they're not sold on the free agency choices and are not ready to go into the season with only 2nd-round rookie Kay Felder backing up the oft-injured Kyrie Irving.

Just from the situation it sounds like Mack (or even Neto) should be on their shortlist.

If Cavs are interested in Mack, would you feel good about letting him go at this point?

What/who would you want back? To me it looks like most straightforward options are Jordan McCrae, rights to Euro Cedi Osman, or the Cavs first rounder this year. Would you go for any of these?

Cavs, if accounts can be trusted, would prefer McCrae to be the price for a PG. They've featured him all pre-season (has led the team in scoring) and fans are talking him up as a young guy with potential to develop into a big-time scorer. I'm not sold. From what I've seen he's a thin, 6-5, only moderately athletic low-efficiency, high-usage 25-year old SG who's not a total trainwreck elsewhere but neither is all that good at shooting 3s, defense or anything else other than creating shots for himself. I'd rather keep Chris Johnson.

First rounder would be best, perhaps. What would that give us -- something like 23, 27, and 30 in this year's draft? Could take three swings for long-term potential there. I don't know if Cavs do that though -- it looks like they're kind of low on future picks as it is.

Osman -- first pick of 2015 2nd round who hasn't particularly distinguished himself in Turkey, though still seems to offer potential. 6-8 SF , 21 years old, good length, decent athleticism, said to have some defensive potential, strong motor, decent BBIQ, a bit thin, not much to speak of offensively yet other than cutting and court-running, a very streaky (usually not great) shot and not many creation skills. Cavs fans would probably resist (he's their Euro hope), but he seems the most realistic.
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Give up Neto over Mack you idiot :)

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If bird were ever healthy we could trade Neto and take on a high upside project, but I don't trust burks health at all.

I do that no second round picks become more valuable when the two way d league NBA contracts start. So getting another second round pick wouldn't be bad.
 
This is a no-brainer: trade Mack. There's only 48 mins at PG, which means Exum and Hill already play some together and eat up mins at the 2. And IF the Jazz need to use another PG, they have Neto. Neto is under contract; Mack will be an UFA next summer. Utah will either re-sign Hill or bring in another vet to start over or back up Exum. Mack probably WANTS to be traded. He's in a contract year and sees minutes will be scant if he remains,
 
gregbroncs said:
I'd keep Neto over Mack. I think he's better at running the offense. I'm sick of seeing Mack ignore a wide open PNR or PNP player to take his own contested shot.
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This so much.

If I was Lyles I'd beg for Mack to be traded. Mack had missed him wide open, behind the line, about a dozen or so times.

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Im surprised so many people are complaining about Mack after he had a pretty nice pre-season.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Im surprised so many people are complaining about Mack after he had a pretty nice pre-season.
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Mack is truly not that bad. We could do so much worse as a third-string PG.

If we had him all-season last year we would have made the playoffs.
 
dalamon said:
If we had him all-season last year we would have made the playoffs.
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What are you basing this on? The Jazz were, for the most part, healthy when Mack was the starting PG and they went 12-13.

Jazz were .500 with Neto as the starting PG and with Gobert and/or Favors out for a huge chunk of those games.

Quite frankly I think they're both mediocre but I don't think one gave them a distinct advantage over the other when it came to making the playoffs last year.
 
Our 2nd unit of:

Mack
Exum
Ingles
Diaw
Lyles

Mack is still the best player at creating his own shot out of those players. When Burks comes back he won't be that important but without Burks he becomes pretty crucial.
 
candrew said:
What are you basing this on? The Jazz were, for the most part, healthy when Mack was the starting PG and they went 12-13.

Jazz were .500 with Neto as the starting PG and with Gobert and/or Favors out for a huge chunk of those games.

Quite frankly I think they're both mediocre but I don't think one gave them a distinct advantage over the other when it came to making the playoffs last year.
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First couple games when Mack joined the team were disasters, and a lot of it was chalked up to him rocking the boat roster-wise.

He put up good numbers though and the team bounce backed after the early malaise. Mack at his best was far superior to Neto on both sides of the court, and if we had him through a training camp prior to the start of the season we would have been a better team
 
dalamon said:
First couple games when Mack joined the team were disasters, and a lot of it was chalked up to him rocking the boat roster-wise.

He put up good numbers though and the team bounce backed after the early malaise.
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Mack went from playing in 24 games at 7 mpg to being a starter on a brand new team. That is a crazy adjustment and to play as well as he did was pretty remarkable.
 
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