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Wells Report concluded that the Patriots violated rules and Tom Brady was aware

carolinajazz said:
My quick and final take on this is this: the air in the balls, unless it's the balls the placekicker is using, have little it ANY advantage whether they are low or a tad bit high! I think the punishment far exceeded the infraction and was entirely excessive! The appeal will reduce the games lost by Brady to two if not more! And finally, this subject will be discussed on sports talk shows longer than the O.J. Simpson trail and verdict!
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Absolutely incorrect. It makes a considerable difference in being able to catch the ball, as well as cutting down fumbles. If the ball is dry and the weather is warm, then it doesn't matter as much, but in cold weather and with a wet ball, it definitely makes a difference. People don't usually cheat for no reason.
 
carolinajazz said:
My quick and final take on this is this: the air in the balls, unless it's the balls the placekicker is using, have little it ANY advantage whether they are low or a tad bit high! I think the punishment far exceeded the infraction and was entirely excessive! The appeal will reduce the games lost by Brady to two if not more! And finally, this subject will be discussed on sports talk shows longer than the O.J. Simpson trail and verdict!
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If it made no difference then they are pretty stupid to get caught intentionally cheating for no advantage. The punishment did not come close to far exceeding the infraction when it has to do with the integrity of the game. IMO I think they went light on Brady. And the Pats actually make money not lose money with their fine. Only thing making this punishment acceptable is the loss of picks for 2 time proven cheaters.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Absolutely incorrect.
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Absolutely disagree! The amount of air we are talking about is so minute that it's hardly discernible to the naked eye or the hand of flesh holding it! We are not talking about a "flat football" or a "rock hard" football where the difference is tangible. Aaron Rogers says he likes his footballs overinflated a tad bit. Some like them under-inflated a tad bit! Weather conditions aside, the difference is negligible! What the Wells report should have concluded and the punishment administered was: "The Seattle Sea Hawk coach is suspended for the first 4 games of the 2015-2016 season.....for handing the Patriots the Super Bowl on a silver platter because of his ludicrous play call at the end of the game for throwing the ball instead of running it!"
 
carolinajazz said:
Absolutely disagree! The amount of air we are talking about is so minute that it's hardly discernible to the naked eye or the hand of flesh holding it! We are not talking about a "flat football" or a "rock hard" football where the difference is tangible. Aaron Rogers says he likes his footballs overinflated a tad bit. Some like them under-inflated a tad bit! Weather conditions aside, the difference is negligible! What the Wells report should have concluded and the punishment administered was: "The Seattle Sea Hawk coach is suspended for the first 4 games of the 2015-2016 season.....for handing the Patriots the Super Bowl on a silver platter because of his ludicrous play call at the end of the game for throwing the ball instead of running it!"
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Nothing like embracing your wrongness. Way to own it.
 
carolinajazz said:
Absolutely disagree! The amount of air we are talking about is so minute that it's hardly discernible to the naked eye or the hand of flesh holding it! We are not talking about a "flat football" or a "rock hard" football where the difference is tangible. Aaron Rogers says he likes his footballs overinflated a tad bit. Some like them under-inflated a tad bit! Weather conditions aside, the difference is negligible! What the Wells report should have concluded and the punishment administered was: "The Seattle Sea Hawk coach is suspended for the first 4 games of the 2015-2016 season.....for handing the Patriots the Super Bowl on a silver platter because of his ludicrous play call at the end of the game for throwing the ball instead of running it!"
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I think I get what you are saying. Brady and company are complete idiots for cheating in a way that doesn't make any difference. Maybe I was giving them too much credit.
 
carolinajazz said:
...so your saying that the Patriots beating the Colts last year in the playoffs by 40 points...was due to the under inflated balls Brady used in the 1st half?
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No, but perhaps them beating Baltimore was influenced by this specific cheating. Pats were down by 14 to the Ravens in that game, twice. So with out this cheating (this is where the integrity of the game comes in) it might very well have been Baltimore @ Indy with the SuperBowl on the line.

Also the out come of how many regular season games that affected seeding and home field advantage in the playoffs...
 
Stoked said:
No, but perhaps them beating Baltimore was influenced by this specific cheating. Pats were down by 14 to the Ravens in that game, twice. So with out this cheating (this is where the integrity of the game comes in) it might very well have been Baltimore @ Indy with the SuperBowl on the line.

Also the out come of how many regular season games that affected seeding and home field advantage in the playoffs...
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And this is why the penalty was not severe enough. The cheating combined with not cooperating added with attacking the investigator because of the finding's should have been more harshly punished.
 
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