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tfivas said:
Lol every time he takes the ball to the hoop its a TO
See dribbling off his foot to lose the game against Washington last season
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I think that one or two events might be standing out in your mind for some reason. Confirmation bias. Everyone loses the ball sometimes. I don't think Hood's turnovers are out of line.

Edit: His Turnover Ratio is 8.4% which ties him for 18th among shooting guards. This tells me that you are probably wrong about this particular problem.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I think that one or two events might be standing out in your mind for some reason. Confirmation bias. Everyone loses the ball sometimes. I don't think Hood's turnovers are out of line.

Edit: His Turnover Ratio is 8.4% which ties him for 18th among shooting guards. This tells me that you are probably wrong about this particular problem.
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What is Hayward's?
Although I'm not quite as worried anymore about Gordon. If he doesn't have a clear path, he'll resort to the step back jumper. In years past, it seemed (and maybe it's confirmation bias on my part), that he'd force a drive or a pass and turn it over a lot.
 
Stifle Tower said:
What is Hayward's?
Although I'm not quite as worried anymore about Gordon. If he doesn't have a clear path, he'll resort to the step back jumper. In years past, it seemed (and maybe it's confirmation bias on my part), that he'd force a drive or a pass and turn it over a lot.
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Gordon is 11.5%, tied for 56th among shooting guards.
 
King Cy said:
What about if you fix it for SG's who get above 20 mpg?
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Hayward actually averaged 19.3 ppg, but if you take those classified as shooting guards who scored more than him this is the result:

Name TO% Overall SG rank
Butler 6.5 4
Thompson 8.4 18
Derozan 9.0 28
Hayward 11.4 56
Harden 11.8 62
Wade 11.9 65

Edit: Damn, it's hard to post a decent table, but hopefully the three columns I included are obvious.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Hayward actually averaged 19.3 ppg, but if you take those classified as shooting guards who scored more than him this is the result:

Name TO% Overall SG rank
Butler 6.5 4
Thompson 8.4 18
Derozan 9.0 28
Hayward 11.4 56
Harden 11.8 62
Wade 11.9 65

Edit: Damn, it's hard to post a decent table, but hopefully the three columns I included are obvious.
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mpg = minutes per game.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
God this makes me so sad that Exum is out for the year. We could have been legit, like maybe 53-55 wins legit, this season. Now I'm hoping for 45.
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You could certainly argue Hayward has 8-10 wins against replacement. You may actually convince me that Rudy or Favors give you 8-10 wins against replacement.

Exum? Maybe in 4 years if all goes very well on his development. But next year? Seems incredible to me.
 
tfivas said:
Lol every time he takes the ball to the hoop its a TO
See dribbling off his foot to lose the game against Washington last season
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I remember seeing a game when Michael Jordan shot an air ball at the buzzer that could have tied the game. Man, that guy choked EVERYTIME he took the big shot.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Apparently the stat keepers are too because the evidence they collected doesn't match with your conclusion.
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I love stats just like everyone else but they're not the end all be all, I'm not diminishing Hoods talent I just think he's a great catch and shooter but his isolation game needs work
 
tfivas said:
I love stats just like everyone else but they're not the end all be all, I'm not diminishing Hoods talent I just think he's a great catch and shooter but his isolation game needs work
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You're wrong any way you look at it. Hood is clearly quite capable of creating his own offense. I could tell that without looking at any stats. Of course he has room for improvement, but that applies to everyone.
 
Siro said:
You're wrong any way you look at it. Hood is clearly quite capable of creating his own offense. I could tell that without looking at any stats. Of course he has room for improvement, but that applies to everyone.
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Speak for yourself.
 
tfivas said:
I love stats just like everyone else but they're not the end all be all, I'm not diminishing Hoods talent I just think he's a great catch and shooter but his isolation game needs work
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I seems somebody was not watching Hood at all last year. He was our 2nd best playmaker to end the year. And he's better with the ball in his hands than anybody on the team not named Hayward.
 
gregbroncs said:
I seems somebody was not watching Hood at all last year. He was our 2nd best playmaker to end the year. And he's better with the ball in his hands than anybody on the team not named Hayward.
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2nd best playermaker isn't saying a lot when Burks was injured and our 2nd best playmaker was either Joe Ingles or Trey Burke before Hood started playing well.
 
King Cy said:
2nd best playermaker isn't saying a lot when Burks was injured and our 2nd best playmaker was either Joe Ingles or Trey Burke before Hood started playing well.
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It was not Burke, It was probably Ingles but that's not bad he's a pretty good playmaker as well.
 
Does the title of this thread make any sense to anybody? I know that Hood posted it to his instagram, but what was he talking about?

And yeah, I know the movie it's from, but I don't see how that relates to any of this.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Does the title of this thread make any sense to anybody? I know that Hood posted it to his instagram, but what was he talking about?

And yeah, I know the movie it's from, but I don't see how that relates to any of this.
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Gunline = line if you cross you will get shot at

Kind of like Hood saying "Dont test me on the court or I will shoot on you" (as in score buckets with his jumper).
 
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