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For those of you who don't like Jimmer...

Just say NO to Jimmer. I loathe watching him play. He's the uglier/slightly better version of C.J. Miles.

I will fork my eyeballs out if the Jazz waste a pick on him.
 
VINYLONE said:
You know this is not true. White people, for the most part, are stiff.
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White people are rarely explosive athletic freaks with 40" vertical jumps, but I wouldn't say they're mostly stiff. There's something in between. Ostertag is stiff. David Lee is mildly stiff. AK isn't. Nash isn't. Dirk isn't stiff. To be honest, Jimmer isn't stiff either.

Since we're talking elephants in the living room here, has anyone figured out what race Blake Griffin is?
 
TroutBum said:
Just say NO to Jimmer. I loathe watching him play. He's the uglier/slightly better version of C.J. Miles.

I will fork my eyeballs out if the Jazz waste a pick on him.
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Although I agree with your sentiment, I still think that Redick is a better comparison. The height, speed and shooting ability all match up to Redick. Jimmer does have a better handle and can create for himself and has marginally better passing skillst than Redick. But even then Jimmer's level of skill in these areas is not NBA PG caliber by any stretch.
 
Jeff said:
I don't know if he's going to be a good NBA player or not, but knocking on his shooting by pointing out he's not in the top 100 in all of the nation is fairly ridiculous. I'd be willing to bet basically all of the guys on that list don't shoulder most the offensive load every night for their respective teams, and aren't hounded by double-teams night in and night out. It's obvious that Fredette's an amazing shooter and that's all there is to it. He's also shooting 3% points better than Stephen Curry did his last season at Davidson as well.
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You may be right about shouldering the load though I am betting that is a big generalization. And Jimmer may be a great shooter, but his shooting percentage is much more a function of periodic and ongoing terrible shot selection. Most coaches would turn over in their grave watching the shots he takes. He has plenty of shooters around him - more than most college teams, and yet he still shoot ill advised shots all the time.
 
The Jazz have a golden opportunity to get something decent this draft, why blow it on Jimmer? He has deficiencies that cannot be fixed. You can't teach him how to keep up with the freak athletes in the NBA, especially on the perimeter. Jimmer can shoot which means he is nothing more than a niche player. The Jazz would be foolish to draft a niche player with a top 10 pick.
 
Catchall said:
Steve Nash
Chase Buddinger
JJ Reddick
Peja
Mike Bibby (is he white?)
Brent Barry
Marco Belinelli
Manu Ginobli
Jason Kidd
that pg in Sacramento
not sure about Steve Blake
Ricky Rubio if he ever plays

a few others probably
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This is 2011, not 2008. Jason Kidd was drafted all the way back in 95 and hes not WHITE. Damn, man. Damn.
 
Catchall said:
Steve Nash
Chase Buddinger
JJ Reddick
Peja
Mike Bibby (is he white?)
Brent Barry
Marco Belinelli
Manu Ginobli
Jason Kidd
that pg in Sacramento
not sure about Steve Blake
Ricky Rubio if he ever plays

a few others probably
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Maybe he should have mentioned American white guys

Steve Nash - Canadian, more than 10 years ago
Chase Budinger - 2nd round, not that good
JJ Reddick - Took his precious time, tweener
Peja - not American, always been an atrocious defender
Mike Bibby - not white
Brent Barry - more than 10 years ago
Marco Belinelli - not American
Manu Ginobili - not American
Jason Kidd - not white
Beno Udrih - inconsistent/took his time/not american
Steve Blake - *shrug*
Ricky Rubio - hasn't played in the NBA, not american
 
tonstermits said:
The Jazz have a golden opportunity to get something decent this draft, why blow it on Jimmer? He has deficiencies that cannot be fixed. You can't teach him how to keep up with the freak athletes in the NBA, especially on the perimeter. Jimmer can shoot which means he is nothing more than a niche player. The Jazz would be foolish to draft a niche player with a top 10 pick.
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We might have two picks. One hopefully top 6 the other near the end of the lottery. We are talking about taking him with the 13th or 14th pick. Who will be better at this point?
 
Catchall said:
White people are rarely explosive athletic freaks with 40" vertical jumps, but I wouldn't say they're mostly stiff. There's something in between. Ostertag is stiff. David Lee is mildly stiff. AK isn't. Nash isn't. Dirk isn't stiff. To be honest, Jimmer isn't stiff either.

Since we're talking elephants in the living room here, has anyone figured out what race Blake Griffin is?
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He's a mulatto (a mixture of races), like Mike Bibby, Jason Kidd, and Deron Williams. Did you know people can breed interracially? Welcome to the 16th century.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Maybe he should have mentioned American white guys

Steve Nash - Canadian, more than 10 years ago
Chase Budinger - 2nd round, not that good
JJ Reddick - Took his precious time, tweener
Peja - not American, always been an atrocious defender
Mike Bibby - not white
Brent Barry - more than 10 years ago
Marco Belinelli - not American
Manu Ginobili - not American
Jason Kidd - not white
Beno Udrih - inconsistent/took his time/not american
Steve Blake - *shrug*
Ricky Rubio - hasn't played in the NBA, not american
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Buddinger is a steal for the second round. Scored over 20 pts last couple of games. He is one of those white guys who can jump out the gym.
 
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