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Here is Leaf next to Ike. Looks about 220-225 which is what UCLA lists him at. Yeah he'll get some abuse in the post but he's not a total bean pole.

 
Leaf reminds me of David Lee (at Florida), both physically and in terms of offensive skill set. I don't think he's an ideal athlete or ideal shooter for the modern game, tbh.
 
Thomas Bryant has enough talent to be a first-round pick. There are questions about his motor, but as a back-up in the 2nd round he'd be a decent pick.

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Why not?

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Kuzma shot 32.1% from three on 3 attempts a game and 66.9% from the free throw line. He averaged 16.4 PPG and 9.3 RPG in 30.8 MPG with a usage percentage of 27%. His true shooting percentage was 56.5%

Leaf shot 46.6% from three on 2 attempts a game and 67.9% from the free throw line. He averaged 16.3 PPG and 8.2 RPG in 29.9 MPG with a usage percentage of 22%. His true shooting percentage was 66%.

While it is true that Leaf played with Ball who is a top-5 pick in this draft he is a freshman who just turned 20 literally yesterday. Kuzma is a junior about to turn 22 in July.

Leaf at #24 >>>> Kuzma at #42.


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White Chocolate said:
Kuzma shot 32.1% from three on 3 attempts a game and 66.9% from the free throw line. He averaged 16.4 PPG and 9.3 RPG in 30.8 MPG with a usage percentage of 27%. His true shooting percentage was 56.5%

Leaf shot 46.6% from three on 2 attempts a game and 67.9% from the free throw line. He averaged 16.3 PPG and 8.2 RPG in 29.9 MPG with a usage percentage of 22%. His true shooting percentage was 66%.

While it is true that Leaf played with Ball who is a top-5 pick in this draft he is a freshman who just turned 20 literally yesterday. Kuzma is a junior about to turn 22 in July.

Leaf at #24 >>>> Kuzma at #42.


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Yeah, it's kind of like Leaf played with this dude called Lonzo Ball on a stacked UCLA team and Kuzma had to carry the Utah ****ing Utes.
 
Kuzma has better agility, first step, and handle. I'm pretty sure he is also longer though there is no official measurements on Kuzma. He is just a way better athlete than Leaf. Leaf probably has a higher vertical, but Kuzma has a lightness on his feet that is really impressive for his size combined with his handle (when he brings the ball up on the break he legitimately looks like a guard) that I think gives him a lot of potential as a 2nd round sleeper. His shot isnt great, but it has improved every year.

And as far as his shot goes, I really like it. He has compact and quick mechanics. I think he could end up being a pretty good shooter. To me his ceiling is higher than Leaf. Honestly, if I had to pick between the two of them at 24, I'd take Kuzma over Leaf. I know he is older and stuff, but when I look at them both I just see a much better player when I see Kuzma. Put this dude next to Lonzo Ball for a year and it would be stupid.
 
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I'm on that Kyle Kuzma bandwagon. [MENTION=631]ONE LOVE[/MENTION] when you start that thread, put me down for Kyle Kuzma
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Kuzma has better agility, first step, and handle. I'm pretty sure he is also longer though there is no official measurements on Kuzma. He is just a way better athlete than Leaf. Leaf probably has a higher vertical, but Kuzma has a lightness on his feet that is really impressive for his size combined with his handle (when he brings the ball up on the break he legitimately looks like a guard) that I think gives him a lot of potential as a 2nd round sleeper. His shot isnt great, but it has improved every year.

And as far as his shot goes, I really like it. He has compact and quick mechanics. I think he could end up being a pretty good shooter. To me his ceiling is higher than Leaf. Honestly, if I had to pick between the two of them at 24, I'd take Kuzma over Leaf. I know he is older and stuff, but when I look at them both I just see a much better player when I see Kuzma. Put this dude next to Lonzo Ball for a year and it would be stupid.
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That's a bold statement. I don't think he will end up being a very good shooter because his three-point percentage dropped from his sophomore to junior year. His percentage from three was 32.1% on 3 attempts which isn't good. He is also 22 in two months like I said as well.


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White Chocolate said:
That's a bold statement. I don't think he will end up being a very good shooter because his three-point percentage dropped from his sophomore to junior year. His percentage from three was 32.1% on 3 attempts which isn't good. He is also 22 in two months like I said as well.


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His % went up by a ton his sophomore to junior year...
 
Catchall said:
I'd be okay taking Bam. My main point is that I seriously doubt he falls to the 2nd rd like DX is currently showing. I'm sure he'll rise when he works out.

I'm liking Diallo if he stays in and gets to 24. The Jazz should be adding athletic upside where they can. There are a bunch of guys in the 20s that are appealing -- Mitchell, Lydon, Jackson, Ojeleye, maybe Bam if he's there, Swanigan... These all look like good rotation players.

I'd take several of these ahead of Justin Jackson from UNC.
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I'd rather have Diallo at 24 than Bam at 60.
 
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