If the top 3 picks were NY, LA, Boston that might have been too obvious. NY still has Porzingis and Carmelo. It's a media circus regardless.
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Then why give Boston the top pick if they are already really good and doing well for the NBA? If it was truly rigged, giving the Knicks a top 3 pick and bumping Boston down to 4 would be optimal.
The lottery picks are important assets for the league to help teams. It wouldn't make sense to give them all out by chance even with weighted odds based on league record.
Some examples:
The league sells the Pelicans franchise to a new ownership group, and the Pelicans get a #1 pick to help them get started.
A new ownership group takes over the Bucks, and the Bucks get a #2 pick to help build their franchise.
Fans are rioting in Cleveland after Lebron leaves. Cleveland gets a #1 pick and then another #1 pick to help give them hope for the future.
If the Lakers lost their pick this year, it would have been a disaster for the Lakers and would have hurt the league's TV deals, which would have affected all the teams. We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars over the next few years. You really want to leave that to chance?
I don't think all the picks are rigged. Probably just one or two each year.
ESPN story today--Should the Lakers trade their pick for a star?
Some examples:
The league sells the Pelicans franchise to a new ownership group, and the Pelicans get a #1 pick to help them get started.
A new ownership group takes over the Bucks, and the Bucks get a #2 pick to help build their franchise.
Fans are rioting in Cleveland after Lebron leaves. Cleveland gets a #1 pick and then another #1 pick to help give them hope for the future.
If the Lakers lost their pick this year, it would have been a disaster for the Lakers and would have hurt the league's TV deals, which would have affected all the teams. We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars over the next few years. You really want to leave that to chance?
I don't think all the picks are rigged. Probably just one or two each year.
ESPN story today--Should the Lakers trade their pick for a star?
You can make a narrative to support conspiracy theories for any team....
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1. Boston - Fultz – This is one of the easiest picks in this draft. He is the best player.
2. LA – Jackson – Surprise the lakers take the player that actually fits their team and their future.
3. Philly – Monk – a stretch but I feel lowry is going to sign in philly and Monk is the better fit.
4. Phoenix – Ball – phoenix can move on from Bledsoe and get a true pointguard
5. Sacramento –Tatum – they keep building a very good team
6. Orlando – Fox – They need a PG who can score
7. Minnesota – Isaac – they are looking to be a very scary team in the future
8. New York - Frank N – rumors have it the knicks love him and he is a good fit
9. Dallas – Markannen – Nowitski as a mentor is ideal. PG is also a big need
10. Sacramento – Smith jr – with tatum in the fold pg is their next big need and they are estatic for smith
11. Charlotte - Anunoby – they are hoping for a future 4 out of anunoby
12. Detroit – Z. Collins – nice fit next to drummond
13. Denver –j Jackson – need to get younger on the wings
14. Miami – Mitchell – great fit for the building heat
15. Portland – Kurucs – His shooting will be a perfect fit
16. Chicago – Kennard – Shooting again
17. Milwaukee – anigbogu – Defense is his key
18. Indiana – Patton – Could play with turner
19. Atlanta – J Collins – Saftey if they cant re-sign millsap
20. Portland – Rabb – still trying to solve their PF problems
21. OKC – Ojeleye – hoping for the future 3\4 that are popular now
22. Brooklyn – Ferguson – they need talent and ferguson has it
23. Toronto – Leaf – stretch 4 they have needed
24. Utah – Hartenstein – 4\5 that will be great to groom of the bench
25. Orlando – Lydon – he is actually a nice fit next to gordon
26. Portland – Giles – BPA at this point and they can gamble with one of their picks
27. Brooklyn – Adebayo – looking at becoming bigger
28. LAL – Diallo – he falls into their laps and they are still building so nice fit
29. San Antonio - Pasecniks – with Gasol on the downward part of his career they get a big who can shoot
30. Utah – F Jackson – he is a 1\2 that is a nice fit in their offense. Insurance if they can re-sign hill
2. LA – Jackson – Surprise the lakers take the player that actually fits their team and their future.
3. Philly – Monk – a stretch but I feel lowry is going to sign in philly and Monk is the better fit.
4. Phoenix – Ball – phoenix can move on from Bledsoe and get a true pointguard
5. Sacramento –Tatum – they keep building a very good team
6. Orlando – Fox – They need a PG who can score
7. Minnesota – Isaac – they are looking to be a very scary team in the future
8. New York - Frank N – rumors have it the knicks love him and he is a good fit
9. Dallas – Markannen – Nowitski as a mentor is ideal. PG is also a big need
10. Sacramento – Smith jr – with tatum in the fold pg is their next big need and they are estatic for smith
11. Charlotte - Anunoby – they are hoping for a future 4 out of anunoby
12. Detroit – Z. Collins – nice fit next to drummond
13. Denver –j Jackson – need to get younger on the wings
14. Miami – Mitchell – great fit for the building heat
15. Portland – Kurucs – His shooting will be a perfect fit
16. Chicago – Kennard – Shooting again
17. Milwaukee – anigbogu – Defense is his key
18. Indiana – Patton – Could play with turner
19. Atlanta – J Collins – Saftey if they cant re-sign millsap
20. Portland – Rabb – still trying to solve their PF problems
21. OKC – Ojeleye – hoping for the future 3\4 that are popular now
22. Brooklyn – Ferguson – they need talent and ferguson has it
23. Toronto – Leaf – stretch 4 they have needed
24. Utah – Hartenstein – 4\5 that will be great to groom of the bench
25. Orlando – Lydon – he is actually a nice fit next to gordon
26. Portland – Giles – BPA at this point and they can gamble with one of their picks
27. Brooklyn – Adebayo – looking at becoming bigger
28. LAL – Diallo – he falls into their laps and they are still building so nice fit
29. San Antonio - Pasecniks – with Gasol on the downward part of his career they get a big who can shoot
30. Utah – F Jackson – he is a 1\2 that is a nice fit in their offense. Insurance if they can re-sign hill
seattlejazzfan
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You don't really think LAL is passing on Lonzo, do you? There are GMs who think he's better than Fultz. I'd put them neck and neck. No way Magic doesnt take Ball.
I think it's definitely possible. Ball doesnt fall past 3 though. No way in hell is anyone taking Malik Monk ahead of Ball. But I could see Jackson or Fox being drafted by LAL over Ball.
Though I think Pelinka/Johnson being in their 1st year, I find it hard to think they would go against the consensus of what people think they are going to do. I think the majority of people on the internet think Jackson is the BPA after Fultz is gone though.
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Somebody was saying that LA radio is speculating that LA will try to trade the pick for PG13
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Chargers Jazz Angels
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I was putting myself in as GM and
Russell
Jackson
Ingram
Randle
Mozgov
is suprior to the team of
Ball
Russell
Ingram
Randle
Mozgov
Beside I think westbrook wants to play in LA. I can see LA trying to cut some salary to be ready to sign him next summer to a max and again Jackson is way better on the team.
Some narratives are more compelling than others. Just remember that the NBA is a media spectacle, and if there's a franchise that's in disarray and needs a shot in the arm, it makes sense to help that franchise to keep the league as a whole healthy. In this case, I'd imagine the Lakers' pick is the only one that the league would want to assure. Nonetheless, there will be plausible deniability because the Lakers had around a 30% chance to get in the top 2.
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Like i said I see them going after westbrook next summer and giving their rebuild 1 more year is not going to kill them. If Magic and Pelinka are smart they will try to clear some salary cap space. Bite the bullet 1 more year and sign westbrook. 2 year in the lottery to make a perinial power house is worth it.
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I think this is kind of silly again if the Lakers do it. Jackson has Paul George potential at a lot less money
The LA situation if Paul George goes there as a FA is what might lure Hayward away from the Jazz, imo. Hayward likes Southern Calif.
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as far as philly goes I dont think Ball and Simmons would be a good match. Lowry has said publicly that he would like to play for his hometown team. Philly has the money to make him a max offer. Monk is the best fit at 2 guard with Lowry and simmons.
Chargers Jazz Angels
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I dont see hayward going to LA but if that is their thinking good luck with that.
Josh Jackson has the best chance to be the best player coming out of this draft, imo. Ceiling is very high, and his floor is very high as well. No way he fails.
Lonzo Ball is not a sure thing. Even if he's really good, his scoring isn't going to lift a franchise. He needs good players to complement.
I'm not confident saying Ball is going to be better than Fox, Smith Jr. or even Frank N.
Lakers can pay Luxury Tax with immunity given their local TV contract. Lakers may not want to wait to build through the draft.
The draft range on Harry Giles is getting ridiculous. It's like 10 - 27.
Is he going to be awesome or not? Somebody better figure it out.
Is he going to be awesome or not? Somebody better figure it out.
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My point is they still have to have money under the cap to sign a free agent. Like I said I think they should target westbrook next year. that means keeping 30 mil available under the cap. They re-sign the group of players they have. Could you imagine this team in 2 years
Westbrook, Russell
Jackson, Clarkson
Ingram, Deng
Randle, Nance
Mozgov, Zubac
That would be the most talent Westbrook has ever played with. 6'5" would be the shortest player on that team.
Hell Deng is still under contract. They only have 47 mil committed that summer
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