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idiot said:
Cy, just wondering with this picture: you still going for the wide shoulders/low shoulders theory on how DM ends up with the same standing reach as Neto (but a 6" longer wingspan)?
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Wingspan is the most important criteria on defense for shot-blockers but not perimeter defenders. The all-time leader in steals had relatively short arms. It's quick feet and quick hands.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Hopefully Mitchell and Exum can hound them into shooting 33% from 3 on average.
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With Favors and Gobert both at the peak defensively inside it will allow our wings to roam way more than most teams. In that case, Hood, Ingles, Mitchell, Exum, all of them can focus on chasing shooters off the 3 pt line and then into the teeth of the defense. I anticipate our defense being all-world/generational this season, in most all areas. It is shaping up to be a perfect storm that few teams will be able to contend with.

Now if we can just figure out a way to score at the same time...
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Wingspan is the most important criteria on defense for shot-blockers but not perimeter defenders. The all-time leader in steals had relatively short arms. It's quick feet and quick hands.
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I'd respectfully disagree. Perimeter length can be very disruptive to an offense, not only with steals and deflections, but also with the passes it prevents.

If you are AI, IT or Nash, you have very quick feet and quick hands, but some of the worse defenders. Mostly because of their size.

Steals are a poor proxy for overall defensive effectiveness. You can gamble and get steals and often get burned being out of position. It's the guys who get steals while maintaining good fundamentals and taking smart (not reckless) risks, who are the best perimeter defenders.
 
LogGrad98 said:
With Favors and Gobert both at the peak defensively inside it will allow our wings to roam way more than most teams. In that case, Hood, Ingles, Mitchell, Exum, all of them can focus on chasing shooters off the 3 pt line and then into the teeth of the defense. I anticipate our defense being all-world/generational this season, in most all areas. It is shaping up to be a perfect storm that few teams will be able to contend with.

Now if we can just figure out a way to score at the same time...
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I like this new optimistic LogGrad.
 
silesian said:
I'd respectfully disagree. Perimeter length can be very disruptive to an offense, not only with steals and deflections, but also with the passes it prevents.

If you are AI, IT or Nash, you have very quick feet and quick hands, but some of the worse defenders. Mostly because of their size.

Steals are a poor proxy for overall defensive effectiveness. You can gamble and get steals and often get burned being out of position. It's the guys who get steals while maintaining good fundamentals and taking smart (not reckless) risks, who are the best perimeter defenders.
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Sigh, no I'm going to have to spend a half an hour watching Donovan Mitchell Summer League Highlights. I have things to do, dangit!
 
silesian said:
I'd respectfully disagree. Perimeter length can be very disruptive to an offense, not only with steals and deflections, but also with the passes it prevents.

If you are AI, IT or Nash, you have very quick feet and quick hands, but some of the worse defenders. Mostly because of their size.

Steals are a poor proxy for overall defensive effectiveness. You can gamble and get steals and often get burned being out of position. It's the guys who get steals while maintaining good fundamentals and taking smart (not reckless) risks, who are the best perimeter defenders.
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Agree with all of this. From my experience playing I love guys that gamble for steals... they get you every now and again but 9/10 they end up out of position. Guys that are disciplined make things much harder.

Perimeter length makes ball handlers uncomfortable and uses up portions of passing lanes... makes everything harder. Length on the perimeter is very important.
 
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The David Locke podcast left me a little worried about Favors. From the off-season posts, I was hoping Favors was pain free and back to his old self. It sounds like there are still movement issues that the new training staff are working on with Favors.
 
My number 1 question for the upcoming season is how will Favors fit in the Jazz offense and spacing?

Second is how healthy will favors be?

These are big questions going into the one of the biggest off season in recent memory.
 
Favors working on the three ball seems like it has been mentioned before as a camp story... I mean shooting 40% on long twos is good and achievable for favs (I think he's been that good or better in the past)... could he shoot 33% from three... I figured it would be a little more open.

So we buying Favs shooting threes?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Favors working on the three ball seems like it has been mentioned before as a camp story... I mean shooting 40% on long twos is good and achievable for favs (I think he's been that good or better in the past)... could he shoot 33% from three... I figured it would be a little more open.

So we buying Favs shooting threes?
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I'm not.
Plus his inability to put the ball on the floor and drive on guys closing out makes his three ball easier to defend and less dangerous for the opponent.
 
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