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WSJ is reporting at least one of the rifles was fully automatic.

I have no idea how one gets their hands on those illegally.

Legally, you're looking at anywhere from $20k-300k.

I would imagine they cost a lot more to purchase illegally.

Just really strange. How does this guy prepare so well? How does he get the weapons? This is weird.
 
JustTheTip said:
WSJ is reporting at least one of the rifles was fully automatic.

I have no idea how one gets their hands on those illegally.

Legally, you're looking at anywhere from $20k-300k.

I would imagine they cost a lot more to purchase illegally.

Just really strange. How does this guy prepare so well? How does he get the weapons? This is weird.
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From what I read (sorry Dalamon and Saint Guy of JFC) he was pretty wealthy and gambled for a living. Knowing where to look and with money and/help almost anything is possible.
 
JustTheTip said:
WSJ is reporting at least one of the rifles was fully automatic.

I have no idea how one gets their hands on those illegally.

Legally, you're looking at anywhere from $20k-300k.

I would imagine they cost a lot more to purchase illegally.

Just really strange. How does this guy prepare so well? How does he get the weapons? This is weird.
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Don't even need fully auto weapons anymore...

https://gizmodo.com/this-trigger-happy-glove-lets-you-simulate-machine-gun-1797434487

The AutoGlove, scheduled to enter production next month, bills itself as a mechanism that allows for “full-auto fire without ATF approval, tax stamp or firearm modifications.” Powered by a battery pack that can be attached to a user’s arm or body, the device looks like a military-inspired Power Glove and is designed to fire a standard semi-automatic firearm at a rate of up to 1,000 rounds per minute.
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Paper_McGibblets said:
I read somewhere today that some thought it could have been a mod used to make the ARs automatic from how they sounded. Thanks for posting this. Very terrifying to know stuff like this exists. I absolutely hate ARs.
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Yeah that is pretty unbelievable. It is worse than having a fully auto AR since if your AR jams or runs out of ammo any old gun becomes a fully auto AR. Scary as ****.
 
JustTheTip said:
Thoughts from me:

I think regulation would have little impact. I mean, let's say these were automatic rifles like the news is saying...those are very heavily regulated. So is that a real solution? I don't know. We can try it though. I would like to see some kind of a waiver for hunting purposes. Fact is, the vast, vast majority of people that own guns don't do anything illegal with them.

People are going to want to take away guns. That's a mistake. It'll lead to a civil war. I'm serious, it will. I don't see how that's a better solution

I don't know what the answer is. I don't believe the problem is guns, but we're probably at the point where we have to make access more difficult. We need to figure out why they're doing this. We need to fix the division. I'm young, but I never remember people being like this. We can't discuss things without insults being thrown out. I think the internet/social media is a large part of the problem tbh. Nobody wants to restrict that though.

If restrictions come, if a complete gun ban comes, I won't like it, but I will comply. I'm a Christian, and I believe that we are told to obey our governmental leaders, so that is what I will do.
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Something leading to Civil War ought not to be an excuse as to why something shouldn't be done.

America made the right decision by having a civil war when it came to questioning the practice of slavery.
 
How is the production of the AutoGlove even legal?

And we wonder why our country is an utter joke.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Don't even need fully auto weapons anymore...

https://gizmodo.com/this-trigger-happy-glove-lets-you-simulate-machine-gun-1797434487



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That looks like a horrible product. I can't quite see exactly how it is used, but it really looks like it would alter the way the firearm is held. I clicked the link and saw a little video and they show a woman using it with a semi-auto hand gun and she absolutely doesn't have good control of the weapon as it fires. It seems like it makes a gun far less safe, and not because it fires many rounds in a short amount of time, but in the way it is activated and deactivated, although I can't fully tell how that happens.

I don't see why this product would be desirable at all for any legitimate use. You can fire a semi-auto rifle (like an AR) pretty damn fast as it is, but with more control and accuracy. So even if you're talking about the zombie polar bear apocalypse. or fighting government tyranny, just a regular old semi-auto is the better choice, imho, than that device.
 
JustTheTip said:
WSJ is reporting at least one of the rifles was fully automatic.

I have no idea how one gets their hands on those illegally.

Legally, you're looking at anywhere from $20k-300k.

I would imagine they cost a lot more to purchase illegally.

Just really strange. How does this guy prepare so well? How does he get the weapons? This is weird.
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Probably like that scene where Mike goes to buy the guns in Breaking Bad.
 
dalamon said:
Something leading to Civil War ought not to be an excuse as to why something shouldn't be done.

America made the right decision by having a civil war when it came to questioning the practice of slavery.
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That is an extremely easy thing to say as compared to having it happen and being one of the ones to deal with it. It also leaves no guarantee that the side you want to wins actually wins. Of that it doesn't result in a split stalemate.
 
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