Huntsman not so Mormony

[Mission Accomplished]

Trout, 1:1-2:

"Thou shalt not be a dumbass."

"Science > Your Opinion"

Sorry didn't know that you were a scientist. Did playing the rub and pull all the time get you on the outs with religion. Your always a repentance process away from being guiltless. Or is science > you pride also.

 

[TroutBum]

Sorry didn't know that you were a scientist. Did playing the rub and pull all the time get you on the outs with religion. Your always a repentance process away from being guiltless. Or is science > you pride also.

You didn't know I was a scientist? Are you stupid or something? I'm also a cunning linguist, much like yourself.

 

[LogGrad98]

I am a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

 

[The-Joker]

You didn't know I was a scientist? Are you stupid or something? I'm also a cunning linguist, much like yourself.

cunning linguist

That sounds dirty...
















.... oh wait it is...
well done

 

[PearlWatson]

Punctuation and one word can change everything.

I'm sure it would be nice and cozy til flatulence time.

 

[franklin]

I've gone to church once in the last six months. I feel like I'm turning into Huntsman, although I would never deny my feelings for the church or God/Christ. I'm just lazy and I've gotten into a bad routine. I'm pretty much going to hell for more reasons than one. No lol.

It's not even football season, binitarian.

Does quantity > quality make me a better Mormon than you? If yes then would that motivate you?

 

[Bronco70]

My wife and I were semi-active for like a year after we got married.

I think that happens a lot.

I'm one of those mormons that does all the stuff, but doesn't believe the church has to be the most important thing in your life.

Newlyweds need time to be together, w/o a bunch of crazies sucking them into every little activity going on.

 

[Scat]

Newlyweds need time to be together, w/o a bunch of crazies sucking them into every little activity going on.

A busy Mormon is a good Mormon.

My wife and I had been married for 6 years when we decided to become active again and go through the temple. We had both been raised in Mormon households but neither of us had been active since high school however. I swear I was slapped with a big sign on my back that said "New Meat!" Within 6 months of becoming active I was the scout master, a home teacher, had given 3 talks in church, been asked to give multiple prayers & help at every function/gathering/fund raiser possible. It's not a stretch to say that I was doing Church stuff a minimum 3 days a week and oft times it was more.

The final straw was when they asked me teach a Sunday School class without relieving me of any of my other duties. I declined telling them that I simply didn't have the time with my other responsibilities, work and my family. I was given a rash of crap for turning down the calling. I quit everything right then and there and let them know that I'd get back to them when I was ready to serve again.

If you let it, the Church will absolutely dominate your every waking second.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Something many people lose sight of (without going into too much detail) is that one of the purposes of the Church (and probably most churches) is to help bring people closer to Christ, and by doing that also strengthen families at the same time. It's not just the doing the things we are "supposed" to do... because that is just the start. If we know why, and understand the purposes we start to step away from being the Pharisees of the New Testament. They did things because that was what they were supposed to do too, but it's much more than that, or deeper than that.

"Going" to church does nothing if a person is just going through the motions, and there is not benefit to the core of who you are. The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.

It's the same with everything else, we do not get the benefit of these things until we understand what value they add to us as people and then we approach these things with the attitude of becoming better, or coming closer to Christ every time we do them.

Repetition is great, but at some point we need to learn the why, and go deeper than a surface level of blindly going through the motions. If what we do does not positively affect who we are, then why are we doing it? It takes time and effort..... and honestly sometimes just going through the motions is the best we can do at the time and it's a good starting point.

In a way I am agreeing with the people that post that it is a waste to blindly follow a religion.... but I am not saying anyone is stronger for walking away. I am saying dig in and understand it, know why you do the things you do. Know why you believe the things you believe deep down to the core level..... and then do them. Don't believe it but then fail to commit. If you believe in something, do something about it, and do it right so it's part of you to your core.

 

[TroutBum]

A busy Mormon is a good Mormon.

My wife and I had been married for 6 years when we decided to become active again and go through the temple. We had both been raised in Mormon households but neither of us had been active since high school however. I swear I was slapped with a big sign on my back that said "New Meat!" Within 6 months of becoming active I was the scout master, a home teacher, had given 3 talks in church, been asked to give multiple prayers & help at every function/gathering/fund raiser possible. It's not a stretch to say that I was doing Church stuff a minimum 3 days a week and oft times it was more.

The final straw was when they asked me teach a Sunday School class without relieving me of any of my other duties. I declined telling them that I simply didn't have the time with my other responsibilities, work and my family. I was given a rash of crap for turning down the calling. I quit everything right then and there and let them know that I'd get back to them when I was ready to serve again.

If you let it, the Church will absolutely dominate your every waking second.

Interesting. I guess everyone is different. I had the same issues, but I've really enjoyed it. I have a lot of fun speaking and teaching, so I haven't had any beef. I always get called to do the service projects for the ward (because a: they know I won't say no, and b: everyone else in the ward is lame), and I've met and made some awesome people/relationships. If not for being 'active' in my church callings, I probably wouldn't be all that 'active', if you know what I'm saying. I freaking hate going to church, but love everything else about it.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

A busy Mormon is a good Mormon.

My wife and I had been married for 6 years when we decided to become active again and go through the temple. We had both been raised in Mormon households but neither of us had been active since high school however. I swear I was slapped with a big sign on my back that said "New Meat!" Within 6 months of becoming active I was the scout master, a home teacher, had given 3 talks in church, been asked to give multiple prayers & help at every function/gathering/fund raiser possible. It's not a stretch to say that I was doing Church stuff a minimum 3 days a week and oft times it was more.

The final straw was when they asked me teach a Sunday School class without relieving me of any of my other duties. I declined telling them that I simply didn't have the time with my other responsibilities, work and my family. I was given a rash of crap for turning down the calling. I quit everything right then and there and let them know that I'd get back to them when I was ready to serve again.

If you let it, the Church will absolutely dominate your every waking second.

That is a bummer.
I've been told many times that service in the church should not overload me, or take away from my family.
Service is great, but there needs to be balance in life. An imbalance in life, even in the service area throws life out of whack and is just too much.

I guess it depends on who is doing the asking, and how well they really know that you and your family are more important than any "job" or task that needs to be done.

I am truly sorry that you experienced that... it shouldn't be like that.

My opinion is that Scoutmaster is huge....and nobody should be tasked with that and have anything else piled on. There's a ton to do with scouts, and that is one of the bigger burdens as to callings.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Interesting. I guess everyone is different. I had the same issues, but I've really enjoyed it. I have a lot of fun speaking and teaching, so I haven't had any beef. I always get called to do the service projects for the ward (because a: they know I won't say no, and b: everyone else in the ward is lame), and I've met and made some awesome people/relationships. If not for being 'active' in my church callings, I probably wouldn't be all that 'active', if you know what I'm saying. I freaking hate going to church, but love everything else about it.

What is funny is the people that own a truck that are constantly asked to help people move, or to move a washer and dryer... or whatever.
I say funny because most of the people I know with trucks get that all the time... but they don't mind too much.

 

[TroutBum]

What is funny is the people that own a truck that are constantly asked to help people move, or to move a washer and dryer... or whatever.
I say funny because most of the people I know with trucks get that all the time... but they don't mind too much.

c: I own a truck.


Son of a bitch...

 

[LogGrad98]

Interesting. I guess everyone is different. I had the same issues, but I've really enjoyed it. I have a lot of fun speaking and teaching, so I haven't had any beef. I always get called to do the service projects for the ward (because a: they know I won't say no, and b: everyone else in the ward is lame), and I've met and made some awesome people/relationships. If not for being 'active' in my church callings, I probably wouldn't be all that 'active', if you know what I'm saying. I freaking hate going to church, but love everything else about it.

Dude you sell insurance. That is hardly comparable to a real job. You obviously have tons of extra time. I am sure you probably end all of your talks/lessons with a brochure and a fridge magnet.


In all seriousness, am I the only one that found it irritating when they created a "calling" just so no one was actually just a member? I remember getting called as the assistant to the 2nd and 4th week deacons quorum teacher in a ward that had 5 deacons. 5 deacons and they had a deacons advisor, 2 teachers and then an assistant teacher. It isn't like I didn't get involved and help out in other areas on my own (scouts, young men, sports, etc.). That was almost just patronizing and kind of said "if you don't have some kind of BS calling you are not really a member".

Sometimes it is ok to just be a member.

 

[TroutBum]

Dude you sell insurance. That is hardly comparable to a real job. You obviously have tons of extra time. I am sure you probably end all of your talks/lessons with a brochure and a fridge magnet.


In all seriousness, am I the only one that found it irritating when they created a "calling" just so no one was actually just a member? I remember getting called as the assistant to the 2nd and 4th week deacons quorum teacher in a ward that had 5 deacons. 5 deacons and they had a deacons advisor, 2 teachers and then an assistant teacher. Sometimes it is ok to just be a member.

Did I ever SAY that I had a real job? Clearly, you have reading problems. I used to LOVE made-up callings. Those are the best, next to Librarian, imo.

 

[LogGrad98]

Did I ever SAY that I had a real job? Clearly, you have reading problems. I used to LOVE made-up callings. Those are the best, next to Librarian, imo.

Then there is Nursery Leader (which can no longer be a male by the way, along with primary teacher, since everyone knows every male in the world wants nothing more than to molest every 0-8 year old kid they can get their hands on no matter the venue), which is the most hellish calling there is, especially in a ward with lots of kids. Also I guess they thought they were giving my wife a job she would LOVE since she had 2 in nursery already, so why not put her in charge of 15 of the little basta...uh I mean angels...so she never gets a break from snot/****/bawling/whining/etc.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Dude you sell insurance. That is hardly comparable to a real job. You obviously have tons of extra time. I am sure you probably end all of your talks/lessons with a brochure and a fridge magnet.


In all seriousness, am I the only one that found it irritating when they created a "calling" just so no one was actually just a member? I remember getting called as the assistant to the 2nd and 4th week deacons quorum teacher in a ward that had 5 deacons. 5 deacons and they had a deacons advisor, 2 teachers and then an assistant teacher. It isn't like I didn't get involved and help out in other areas on my own (scouts, young men, sports, etc.). That was almost just patronizing and kind of said "if you don't have some kind of BS calling you are not really a member".

Sometimes it is ok to just be a member.

Ok, that is pretty bad...an assistant to an advisor?
My opinion is to cycle people in from time to time with callings, and let the others enjoy more time with the family.
Pretty much everyone is a HT'er anyways, so it's not like there is nothing to be done if they want to.

I spent about 5 months without a calling and it was funny what a rollercoaster it was for me.
I started thinking I must have done something wrong in my last calling and that's why I was released, then I started enjoying it, then I got bored and wanted to do more and be involved.
I should have just enjoyed it the whole time.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Then there is Nursery Leader (which can no longer be a male by the way, along with primary teacher, since everyone knows every male in the world wants nothing more than to molest every 0-8 year old kid they can get their hands on no matter the venue), which is the most hellish calling there is, especially in a ward with lots of kids. Also I guess they thought they were giving my wife a job she would LOVE since she had 2 in nursery already, so why not put her in charge of 15 of the little basta...uh I mean angels...so she never gets a break from snot/****/bawling/whining/etc.

That would be the exact reason to not have your wife do nursery... give her a break.
We have 3 male nursery teacher's in our ward. I guess someone did not get the memo?

 

[Scat]

My opinion is that Scoutmaster is huge....and nobody should be tasked with that and have anything else piled on. There's a ton to do with scouts, and that is one of the bigger burdens as to callings.

I'm glad somebody appreciates the magnitude of the calling.

Scouts took up at least 2 days per week. The standard weekday get together and then the Scoutmaster usually serves as a Priesthood adviser as well so that meant Sunday was spent on scouts. In addition I was the merit badge counsellor for 6 different badges so I always had kids calling me asking if they could come over and pass stuff off.

In addition to these duties we tried to go camping at least once a month which was a Friday night through Saturday afternoon. Oft times we would try to catch camps when the kids had a day off school so that we could go for 2-3 days instead of just overnight. Of course I'd have to take a day or two off work but I get 4 weeks vacation per year so it usually worked out. And then there was at least a full week of camp during the summer. Again, I gave up a week of vacation to spend with the scouts.

Now, all that being said, it wasn't the scouts that were difficult to deal with, it was the freakin' parents. Just try and find a parent willing to go camping with his son for the weekend because we could use an extra vehicle to haul up gear and kids. Just try and find parents to take a week off work and go camping with you. I had one mother go to the Bishop and complain because her son wasn't advancing towards his Eagle fast enough and her ex-husband was threatening to take custody because under his watch the son would make Eagle for sure. Guess what? The kid could care less. We had several kids that were advancing right along. They'd come every week and participate. This kid would just sit in class and wait for it to end so he could play football afterwards.

The worst were the kids that never came to scouts because they simply didn't care. Then, all of the sudden they'd be 17 1/2 and the parents would decide that they really needed to get their Eagle. I'd have parents hounding me to pass them off for stuff that I knew dang well they hadn't done. I even had one parent give me work that an older brother had turned in for his Eagle project expecting me to give junior credit.

Yup, if it weren't for parents, scouting would be fun.

 

[LogGrad98]

Yup, if it weren't for parents, scouting would be fun.

This applies to coaching kids sports too. And just about any other kids activity you may be involved in.