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Didn't DX also say he was like 6'6 at age 16 or 17, then shot up suddenly to 6'11? Late growth spurts would also explain awkwardness.
 
vslice02 said:
Haha. Goodness gracious, what was Locke's evaluation of Kanter? Is he the next Patrick Patterson?
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Locke is fixated on hands. If a guy in one game he watches botches an entry pass or two, it means he has bad hands and will struggle in the NBA. It does NOT mean he botched a pass or two.
 
Dwill_PwnasaurasRex said:
Didn't DX also say he was like 6'6 at age 16 or 17, then shot up suddenly to 6'11? Late growth spurts would also explain awkwardness.
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I always thought it was the exact opposite. That players with late growth spurts should be a lot less akward. I'm sure each case is different, but I remember reading about players like Hayward, TJones (UK), Tomic, all had growth spurts late and that is why they all have great touch and have good handles (minus Tomic).
 
Do you guys remember when KOC made the trade with POR to move up to #3 for DWill? It was well before the draft right?
 
Jazz4ever said:
Still waiting for some actual evidence why JV will not succeed. So far we have "awkward", "skinny", and "stiff". Most 18 year olds that have not filled out tend to look that way.
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This is all conjecture. But when translating games, the eye test matters as much as anything does. The guy doesn't have any obvious skill to his game and if he really is a 7-footer with a 7' 6" wingspan he's probably Jeremy Evans-ing his way to rebounds against non-NBA bigs. I'm also waiting for what we find out from the Eurocamp in terms of measurements and things of that nature. Despite having played a lot more than any of the other overseas lottery picks, he's still the biggest mystery to me, at least when I watch him play and then see where he's projected. I just don't see it.

And as far as Givony goes, the guy's not perfect. He - just like anyone - has his darling picks and players he just doesn't like. Valanciunas seems like his darling based largely on pace-adjusted numbers and percentages. And that's fine, there are far worse thing to base an opinion on.
 
It seems as if we are gonna draft Enes Kanter. FYI pronounciation of his name is NS (en-es) Kahn- Ter (as in TERra).
 
BENTLEY said:
Actually, this is pretty astute. Way to go Dr. Freud. And in spite of Brooks' personal numbers his team sucked this year. He looks really talented so that should help him in workouts that are all about him, but as part of a team he may not be so great.

I'd rather take Fredette.
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Thanks I am actually working on my psychology degree now. Been a hobby for years. Was working on a little explanation of his body language and voice inflections but I am too lazy today to go back over his videos.
 
Xthren said:
Thanks I am actually working on my psychology degree now. Been a hobby for years. Was working on a little explanation of his body language and voice inflections but I am too lazy today to go back over his videos.
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I would LOVE to hear more. And I'm not being facetious.

I would also be curious to know anything that jumped out at you with other players (specifically Klay Thompson, but also Kanter, Knight, Williams, and Irving. Maybe even Hamilton).
 
Well a quick thing on klay Thompson..... As far as his pot smoking that is a huge negative because he apologized after getting caught and when there are very little restrictions in the pros it could be a big problem. I didn't buy his public apology. What itbreminded me of was a child being sorry for getting caught.
 
Xthren said:
Well a quick thing on klay Thompson..... As far as his pot smoking that is a huge negative because he apologized after getting caught and when there are very little restrictions in the pros it could be a big problem. I didn't buy his public apology. What itbreminded me of was a child being sorry for getting caught.
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It's not a big deal. Oh wow he smoked pot, like any of us on this forum (especially who attended college) haven't done so. I'm sure once he is a professional he will stop smoking at least until the offseason. Wasn't there a anonymous poll of NBA athletes where about half of the most of them admitted to doing it in the offseason?
 
Xthren said:
Well a quick thing on klay Thompson..... As far as his pot smoking that is a huge negative because he apologized after getting caught and when there are very little restrictions in the pros it could be a big problem. I didn't buy his public apology. What itbreminded me of was a child being sorry for getting caught.
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I really couldn't care less about that specific issue as it pertains to players (I think the substance is WILDLY demonized). But outside of that, did you see anything?

I can't say much about what it means, but he just seems to be scowling all of the time. On court or off of it, the kid just seems to have a bad attitude to some degree (usually slight). And not in a way that might end up being a good thing.
 
Why do I feel like if Nikola Vucevic was coming over from Europe instead of playing in the states that he would be a top-10 pick? I'm not saying that we should draft him, I just like him as a player. Random thought of the day.
 
Jeremy Tyler's an intriguing prospect. Given two years overseas, I gotta think he's seen and experienced some things that should make him a bit more mature than many of these prospects. He also had the best standing reach and wingspan this year I think, and according to a few GM's and scouts per Chad Ford's article, would have been a lottery pick this year had he gone the more traditional route.

By no means am I saying to draft him at #12 but let's say we can draft Kanter and in a trade with Washington get Knight at #6 as well as pick up there #18, we could then get Singleton at #12 and Tyler at #18.

We'd have hopefully picked up our pg of the future, an elite wing defender, and a potentially very strong interior presence in Tyler.
 
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