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Sorry Jazz fans – Ben is the NBA Rookie of the Year

utahjazzz said:
No, you are very wrong. Taking 2 point shots inside the paint is simply more efficient than chucking 3s and benefit your team more. And this is exactly what simmons is doing.

Let's do some maths:
Mitchell is a 30 % 3 point shooter, Ben is a 55% 2 point shooter, lets say they each takes 10 shots

mitchell 10×3×0.3= 9 poiints
simmons 10×2× 0.55= 11 points

As you can see, if you are an efficient shooter inside the paint like Ben, your team actually gain more points from simmons' scoring inside the paint than mitchell's 3 balls. Hope this make sense to you.
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utahjazzz said:
Well, I have showed you that a 50% inside scorer like simmons is more valuable than a 30% 3 point shooter like mitchell.
You are still not convinced?
Unless you are a 40% 3 point shooter, constantly chucking up 3s is actually bad for the team. And this is what mitchell is doing in the playoff.
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Dude what are you talking about? You've lost it completely. I wish that I could draw you a picture using a crayon of what I am about to say, because I honestly think, that is the only way you will comprehend. I'm sorry "comprehend" is at more of a 5th grade reading level and I can tell that you are way below that.
COMPREHEND = to understand.
SIMMONS HAS NEVER MADE AN NBA 3 POINT SHOT IN ACTUAL GAME TIME IN HIS LIFE!!!!
MITCHEL BROKE THE RECORD BY A ROOKIE FOR THE MOST 3 PT SHOTS MADE.

Lets talk about Simmons efficiency. I have all the stats.
98.9% of Simmons shots were 2 point field goals.
He shot 74.4% from field goals that were less than 3 ft away from the basket. (46.2% of his shots were taken from this range)
He shot 41% from 3-10 ft away. (32.5% of his shots were taken at this range)
He shot 31% from 10-16 ft away. (1.7% of his shots were taken at this range)
He shot 39% from 16-30 ft away. (0.2% of his shots were taken at this range)
0% was his 3 point% even though he was left unguarded around the perimeter the entire year.
He couldn't make a 3 pointer and no they were not heaves, I looked that up please refer to my other reply where I am trashing you.

You claim Mitchell shot 30%, that is false, he shot 34%. Pretty good for a rookie if you ask me or any other fan of this league in the world that actually knows what they are talking about.

Lets redo your math with correct numbers, with correct equations so that there is no favorite and the odds are fair.
Simmons and Mitchell both take 100, 3 pt. shots.
Mitchell shot 34% in the regular season, 100x3x.34 = 102 points.
Simmons shoots 0% because he's scared, 100x0x0.0= 0 points.

74% of Ben Simmons shots were within 3ft from the basket! I know your getting excited about that number,, but what does that tell you about what he does outside of away from the basket? (outside of 3 ft?)
You poor lost soul who has trouble comprehending simple math.
 
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I think Utahjazz more likely lives a 30-minute or less drive to Vivint Smart Home Arena -- gee, what a terrible name. They need to call it the Larry H. Miller Arena, but then they won't get the sponsorship bucks.
 
Lakers_Slapper said:
Dude what are you talking about? You've lost it completely. I wish that I could draw you a picture using a crayon of what I am about to say, because I honestly think, that is the only way you will comprehend. I'm sorry "comprehend" is at more of a 5th grade reading level and I can tell that you are way below that.
COMPREHEND = to understand.
SIMMONS HAS NEVER MADE AN NBA 3 POINT SHOT IN ACTUAL GAME TIME IN HIS LIFE!!!!
MITCHEL BROKE THE RECORD BY A ROOKIE FOR THE MOST 3 PT SHOTS MADE.

Lets talk about Simmons efficiency. I have all the stats.
98.9% of Simmons shots were 2 point field goals.
He shot 74.4% from field goals that were less than 3 ft away from the basket. (46.2% of his shots were taken from this range)
He shot 41% from 3-10 ft away. (32.5% of his shots were taken at this range)
He shot 31% from 10-16 ft away. (1.7% of his shots were taken at this range)
He shot 39% from 16-30 ft away. (0.2% of his shots were taken at this range)
0% was his 3 point% even though he was left unguarded around the perimeter the entire year.
He couldn't make a 3 pointer and no they were not heaves, I looked that up please refer to my other reply where I am trashing you.

You claim Mitchell shot 30%, that is false, he shot 34%. Pretty good for a rookie if you ask me or any other fan of this league in the world that actually knows what they are talking about.

Lets redo your math with correct numbers, with correct equations so that there is no favorite and the odds are fair.
Simmons and Mitchell both take 100, 3 pt. shots.
Mitchell shot 34% in the regular season, 100x3x.34 = 102 points.
Simmons shoots 0% because he's scared, 100x0x0.0= 0 points.

74% of Ben Simmons shots were within 3ft from the basket! I know your getting excited about that number,, but what does that tell you about what he does outside of away from the basket? (outside of 3 ft?)
You poor lost soul who has trouble comprehending simple math.
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Simmons is a 54% scorer and Mitchell is a 43 % scorer (Regular season ), that is all you need to know.
 
Lakers_Slapper said:
The Jazz would not consider trading Mitchell for Simmons either. A 6 man? I know that was a shot to get me upset, but I'm not. Simply because you have said something that reveals your limited knowledge when it comes to the sport of basketball. Limited because your probably composing these messages from the basement of your mothers house, or guest room of her trailer. Your also more than likely born after 1992 making your basketball IQ amongst those of brain damaged primates. Simmons and the Sixers are in a conference where half of your teams don't belong in the playoffs. The ENTIRE NBA is debating eliminating the 2 conferences to the top 16 teams because your conference can't even look competitive during the Playoffs.

Philadelphia beat Miami.
Miami had a regular season win/loss of 44 wins and 38 losses.
Miami won 44 games out of 82 games, playing mostly Eastern conference teams.
If they were in the west they would be a 10th seed and not come close to making the playoffs.

Congrats to Philadelphia.. They beat a team in the Miami Heat whos starting 5 consisted of
Goran Dragic- 31 years old, 17 ppg, 4.8 apg, 2.2 turnovers, 32 mpg, 0.8 Spg, 0.2 BPG, 75 games played.
(older, can't defend, can't distribute, respected minutes to show his worth and couldn't do it.
Tyler Johnson- 25 years old, 11.7 ppg, 2.3 apg, 1.1 turnovers, 28.5 mpg, 0.8 spg, .5 bpg, 72 games played.
(how is this guy a starting player in the NBA?? Any other team he would be G-League.
J. Richardson- 24 years old, 12.9 ppg, 2.9 apg, 1.7 turnovers, 33.2 mpg, 1.5 spg, 0.9 bpg, 81 games played.
(this guy is also a starter!! Any other team???...... Yep, bench warmer, water boy.
James Johnson- 30 years old, 10.8 ppg, 3.8 apg, 1.9 turnovers, 26.6 mpg, 1.0 spg, 0.7 bpg, 73 games played.
Some of the better stats from your team came from this guy, and still inconsistent productivity.
H. Whiteside- 28 years old, 14.0 ppg, 1.0 apg, 1.7 turnovers, 25.3 mpg, 0.7 spg, 1.7 bpg, 54 games played.

This is the team that you beat!!! Congratulations!!!! A team with nothing but bench players, but hey, welcome to the East!!!
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If the east is so weak, then how come the jazz lost all its regular matches against the Atlanta hawks? The hawks had the worst record in the east this season.
What is your excuse for that ?
 
utahjazzz said:
If the east is so weak, then how come the jazz lost all its regular matches against the Atlanta hawks? The hawks had the worst record in the east this season.
What is your excuse for that ?
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Yup one individual matchup is how it should be measured... if u can’t handle DM’s success it’s gonna be a long 15 years for ya... maybe just enjoy it or GTFOH
 
colton said:
LOL, yeah because 38 points on 26 attempts is just SO inefficient. OK, you win.
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Being guarded by one of the top perimeter defenders and being the complete focus of the defense.

Here’s is an amazing thing we might consider... maybe Ben and DM can both be good at basketball... can there be more than one good player?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Being guarded by one of the top perimeter defenders and being the complete focus of the defense.

Here’s is an amazing thing we might consider... maybe Ben and DM can both be good at basketball... can there be more than one good player?
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Ben's certainly good. Donovan is generational. It's crazy, you literally can't avoid hall of fame players when looking for comparisons to describe Donovan's accomplishments. They are the only comparison.
 
colton said:
Ben's certainly good. Donovan is generational. It's crazy, you literally can't avoid hall of fame players when looking for comparisons to describe Donovan's accomplishments. They are the only comparison.
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I just laugh that philly fans feel a need to constantly say DM is trash... please... philly finally starts winning and now they heads so big.
 
utahjazzz said:
When they have Lebron next year, it will be all over for the rest of the league.
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I mean if Ben is so good why he need Lebron? Wait till DM gets a full offseason to work on his craft... it will be over for the rest of the league.

Also speaking of efficiency DMs PER is higher in the playoffs and their true shooting percentages are identical... while DM is shooting more and shooting 30% of his attempts from 3. Ben got more assists but also his TO percentage is twice what DMs are.

Suck it troll
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I mean if Ben is so good why he need Lebron? Wait till DM gets a full offseason to work on his craft... it will be over for the rest of the league.

Also speaking of efficiency DMs PER is higher in the playoffs and their true shooting percentages are identical... while DM is shooting more and shooting 30% of his attempts from 3. Ben got more assists but also his TO percentage is twice what DMs are.

Suck it troll
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Nothing wrong with that. Any championship team these day have at least 3 all stars. Philly only have 2 stars ~ Embiid and Simmons. THE addition of Lebron next year will make the 76ers a true contender. Looks like the warriors' dominance will be over.
 
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utahjazzz said:
Nothing wrong with that. Any championship team these day have at least 3 all stars. Philly only have 2 stars ~ Embiid and Simmons. THE addition of Lebron next will make the 76ers a true contender. Looks like the warriors' dominance will be over.
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Kewl story. IF we Embiid stays healthy and IF LBJ comes then Ben will have enough guys to play Robin for.
 
Ben can have ROY and shove it up his ***. These playoffs are Donovan Mitchell's coming out party as a super star. There is no comparison between the two in the playoffs, oh and it looks a lot easier for Simmons with the talent around him. Mitchell carried his team in the first, took on the big three of OKC and destroyed them.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
LBJ going to Philly is pure speculation. A lot depends on how far the Cavs go this year, and if it's an early exit, then I'm sure he will weigh his options.
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Oh he’s gone... I wonder if he’d stay on a 5 year mega max contract though... he wants to be a billionaire. Who knows... I’d say it’s like 40% lakers, 40% Cleveland, 10% philly, and 10% somewhere people haven’t considered... kinda like the CP3 thing.
 
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