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Stephen Jackson calls out Utah fans now.

nateboz said:
Utah does have a lot of white people. It's kind of getting old that racist comments keep happening everywhere but I highly doubt it's worse in utah.
This guy is the same one who got in the seats and fought the crowd. Got in a fight with a teammate in a bar. Just admitted to doing marijuana before games and played "high." I could be wrong but that's on the banned substances list.
He was a dirty player and a thug on the floor. He's not really a dude who's opinion I'd count on.

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Using the term “thug” for guys who aren’t really thugs is a pretty bad look to. A dirty player does not equate to a thug.
 
Also why is a cutout of someone in Jail with his face glued to it racist? Seems like a funny poster. Unless he was offended because he knows he should be in jail or something.

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nateboz said:
Also why is a cutout of someone in Jail with his face glued to it racist? Seems like a funny poster. Unless he was offended because he knows he should be in jail or something.

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I wouldn’t say it’s racist but it’s absolutly bad taste.
 
tfivas said:
The smoking weed thing is a non issue for me, there's been former jazz players that I'm sure have done it. Stephen Jackson is /was also a known member of the bloods, doesn't have the best of credibility with me .
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Smoking to me isn't a big thing but it is clearly against the league rules and he bragged about using it. Like a guy bragging about speeding every day and never getting a ticket.

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oneye said:
Using the term “thug” for guys who aren’t really thugs is a pretty bad look to. A dirty player does not equate to a thug.
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Totally agree, but Stephen Jackson is the definition of a thug lol (should say was because he seems like a different person now at least in the interviews I've listened with Russillo or Cowered) . Calling a guy like Westbrook a thug, I would call out that person.
 
nateboz said:
He was a gang member.

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Haha

Seems as though you might need a primer on the current cultural do's and dont's when it comes to anyone not white male. Whether you agree with it or not, or knew it or not, there a bunch of words that are now offensive. The PC police and social justice warriors will have your head, job, and anything else they can take from you. "Thug" is essentially the N word now. Dont say "thats ghetto" either. There are many more too. Even something "inner city" is not ok.
 
Gas said:
Haha

Seems as though you might need a primer on the current cultural do's and dont's when it comes to anyone not white male. Whether you agree with it or not, or knew it or not, there a bunch of words that are now offensive. The PC police and social justice warriors will have your head, job, and anything else they can take from you. "Thug" is essentially the N word now. Dont say "thats ghetto" either. There are many more too. Even something "inner city" is not ok.
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Any idiot knows it's plain stupid to drop the N-bomb, but in no way does that mean the issue at hand is dealt with.

Like any pathogen, evil adapts to survive and maintain its virulence.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Any idiot knows it's plain stupid to drop the N-bomb, but in no way does that mean the issue at hand is dealt with.

Like any pathogen, evil adapts to survive and maintain its virulence.
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I think I hear what you are saying. But I dont think everyone who uses those terms does it because they are evil are racist. Most of the time probably out of ignorance. But maybe ignorance can be evil.
 
Gas said:
I think I hear what you are saying. But I dont think everyone who uses those terms does it because they are evil are racist. Most of the time probably out of ignorance. But maybe ignorance can be evil.
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For sure. Ignorance is the vehicle of evil, in my mind. The root of it, but certainly not the apex of it.

I think it's important and good we have these conversations, and I think it's important to consider that whatever our perceptions, they deserve (re)examining.
 
nateboz said:
Smoking to me isn't a big thing but it is clearly against the league rules and he bragged about using it. Like a guy bragging about speeding every day and never getting a ticket.

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Who here has smoked weed before an organized game? I remember one time in my early 20s in a rec league with refs, our whole team smoked some weed in the parking lot before the game. It was like a comedy of errors. Our coordination was way out of sync.
 
Gas said:
I think I hear what you are saying. But I dont think everyone who uses those terms does it because they are evil are racist. Most of the time probably out of ignorance. But maybe ignorance can be evil.
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Just because you don’t mean something in a certain way doesn’t mean it isn’t received in a certain way. There are some PC things that have gone too far, and in reality you’re allowed to speak as you please, but there are consequences to your actions. Calling guys thugs, or other related terms that you may not see the same connotation they do to those terms, doesn’t really matter. I can guarantee you every guy on the Jazz bench attatches that same negative meaning to them and truly doesn’t like it. Just don’t be stupid, it’s such a horrible look.
 
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