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2019 trade deadline discussion

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Nah. If they are trading AD it means they are starting over. They'd want Mitchell.
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Makes sense. Could also be they still think they can compete and want to try and find equal value for him. But the biggest likelihood would be them saying "screw it" and rebuild. But personally, I wouldn't trade Mitchell for AD. Not discounting AD, but Mitchell has endeared himself so much to the fanbase and his potential is MVP (to me) that fans would riot the second the deal broke.
 
Based off of reality and what is actually out there, I think our "untouchables" or "probably wouldn't trade at all because nobody is available and worth it" list is what I put before:
Gobert
Rubio
Ingles
Exum
Mitchell
Grayson
O'Neale

If Paul George wanted out halfway through the year, maybe we trade one of those guys. Maybe. In that highly unlikely scenario, maybe.
 
Jack Strop said:
The only true untouchable is Mitchell. He wouldnt be traded for any other player in the league. Gobert is 99% in that range. I think Ingles is close. Along with being a very good SF and one of the best 3pt shooters in the league, he's the glue guy. He keeps everyone loose and you can tell his teammates really like him.

To those hoping we get a great FA in 2019, I hate to disappoint, but it ain't gonna happen. Favors will be back and so will Rubio. The only chance Utah has of landing a good veteran is at the deadline, with some combination of expirings (Burks, Thabo, Udih, Neto), picks or other assets. Miss at the deadline and Lindsey may look to use the MLE in 2019.
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Ya Mitchell definitely and gobert is close enough that I think labeling him as untouchable is fine. Jingles is close to that designation but I wouldn’t be shocked if we traded him and some other stuff to get a top all star type guy if one were available.
 
TheStormofWar said:
Makes sense. Could also be they still think they can compete and want to try and find equal value for him. But the biggest likelihood would be them saying "screw it" and rebuild. But personally, I wouldn't trade Mitchell for AD. Not discounting AD, but Mitchell has endeared himself so much to the fanbase and his potential is MVP (to me) that fans would riot the second the deal broke.
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I’m with ya. I’m hard pressed to think of anyone in the nba I would be ok trading Mitchell for. If Lebron was 5 years younger and on a long term deal I would do it. Maybe KD on a long term deal. (And both players wanting to be here)

That’s about it really.
 
Unless we are playing terrible basketball with a terrible trade deadline record, I honestly don't think we trade anybody but Burks and Udoh. And even if we do have a terrible record, we probably still have faith we could pull it together in time for the playoffs like we did last year.
 
LoPo said:
Unless we are playing terrible basketball with a terrible trade deadline record, I honestly don't think we trade anybody but Burks and Udoh. And even if we do have a terrible record, we probably still have faith we could pull it together in time for the playoffs like we did last year.
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Agreed, but we've seen what this team does healthy. The only way we are horrible is if injuries strike again.
 
I think we have 2 legit untouchables, unless it is for a top-3 player. And those 2 are Mitchell and Gobert. But if NO comes knocking and asks for Mitchell and change for AD you have to consider it. But other than a scenario like that, they are going nowhere.

Anyone else is, and should be, fair game, if it brings the right player to bridge the chasm between the 4-8 slots and the 1,2,3 of GS, Houston and likely the Lakers at this point, as much as I hate typing that.



This year I plan on being at every game the Jazz are in town to play the Clips or the LA-bron Fakers. In jerseys if I can mortgage my car or something to buy them. Freaking $100+ is a joke.
 
I would guess that what Utah does is entirely dependent on:

(1) how the team is doing at the trade deadline; and
(2) how Favors, Exum, and Rubio are playing.

Rubio could be absolutely necessary or expendable depending on how Exum develops. If both Exum and Rubio are doing great, one of them would be an excellent trade piece in a package for the “third piece.”

I also still think Exum, Rubio, or Favors could be the third piece. If that happens, great! If not, we have a lot of flexibility to make moves.

My ideal would be keeping all of those guys and bringing in Tobias Harris for the expirings and pick(s) at the deadline and then a good MLE signing during the summer to round out our championship squad.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think we have 2 legit untouchables, unless it is for a top-3 player. And those 2 are Mitchell and Gobert. But if NO comes knocking and asks for Mitchell and change for AD you have to consider it. But other than a scenario like that, they are going nowhere.

Anyone else is, and should be, fair game, if it brings the right player to bridge the chasm between the 4-8 slots and the 1,2,3 of GS, Houston and likely the Lakers at this point, as much as I hate typing that.



This year I plan on being at every game the Jazz are in town to play the Clips or the LA-bron Fakers. In jerseys if I can mortgage my car or something to buy them. Freaking $100+ is a joke.
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I kind of think the LA Brons are being overrated? Better than the Jazz? Doubtful. The Jazz are a better balanced team overall, have better depth, and better coaching. I have a ton of respect for LBJ, but if he wanted to get back to the finals, he should have signed with Philly. The Lakers are a team that looks primed to implode if someone strikes the match. And Lavar Ball is grinning flicking his zippo.
 
Ineptimusprime said:
I would guess that what Utah does is entirely dependent on:

(1) how the team is doing at the trade deadline; and
(2) how Favors, Exum, and Rubio are playing.

Rubio could be absolutely necessary or expendable depending on how Exum develops. If both Exum and Rubio are doing great, one of them would be an excellent trade piece in a package for the “third piece.”

I also still think Exum, Rubio, or Favors could be the third piece. If that happens, great! If not, we have a lot of flexibility to make moves.

My ideal would be keeping all of those guys and bringing in Tobias Harris for the expirings and pick(s) at the deadline and then a good MLE signing during the summer to round out our championship squad.
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You have to add...

(3) who is actually available
 
Get ready for a boring during season... I think we believe in Favs. I'm not sure we go out kicking a lot of tires unless things go badly. If something awesome shows up at our doorstep we might take it, but I don't think we are actively looking at a major addition.
 
I think we are keeping this same team for 2 years. We should trade Burks for some bad contract that expires in 2020 and pick up some future 1st in the process. That future first could be key in going after a trade in the future to build around Donovan.

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LoPo said:
I think we are keeping this same team for 2 years. We should trade Burks for some bad contract that expires in 2020 and pick up some future 1st in the process. That future first could be key in going after a trade in the future to build around Donovan.

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Why not trade Burks and our 2019 pick for a vet at the deadline instead of taking on a bad contract? A good player is much more valuable than a pick in the 20's.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Utah could always buy a pick back <cough Rudy cough>, or better yet possibly a top 2nd rounder signed to a two way.
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Depending on draft class quality, we could do that. Utah has 2 future 2nds coming their way plus the Cleveland swap. The 2021 San An pick could pick up some value if they dish Kawhi.
 
If we love our team as much as we say we do and the guys are as close as they seem to be, we will keep the main people here the next two years.

So trade Burks in one of the deals below, get a 1st or swap multiple 1st rounders.

For Dellie (2 years $9.6 per)

For Courtney Lee (2 years $12.5 per)

For Marvin Williams (2 years $14 per)

For Mahinmi (2 years $16 per) - I would ask for Brown and a pick swap.

Get an asset while we can instead of waiting for other teams to get into trade mode. Its easier to make a trade before season than during the season especially considering our close locker room. The asset gained from this type deal can be used if we go after somebody in the future. Its maximizing our assets.

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LoPo said:
If we love our team as much as we say we do and the guys are as close as they seem to be, we will keep the main people here the next two years.

So trade Burks in one of the deals below, get a 1st or swap multiple 1st rounders.

For Dellie (2 years $9.6 per)

For Courtney Lee (2 years $12.5 per)

For Marvin Williams (2 years $14 per)

For Mahinmi (2 years $16 per) - I would ask for Brown and a pick swap.

Get an asset while we can instead of waiting for other teams to get into trade mode. Its easier to make a trade before season than during the season especially considering our close locker room. The asset gained from this type deal can be used if we go after somebody in the future. Its maximizing our assets.

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Why do you keep coming up with scenarios that are the opposite of what the jazz are trying to do.
 
I'm just throwing ideas out there because I don't believe we are changing the roster much the next two years. I don't think we are players in 2019 free agency. Lastly, I think we need another asset if we do try to pull off a trade for a player who improves the team.

This will all become obvious when we extend or re-sign Rubio and match on Favors' deal next July. At that point, we won't have cap space to sign anybody substantial and we are going to wish we had another asset.

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