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I certainly did not have Canada or USA in mind. Try Bangladesh for example. Based on statistics world currently is overpopulated by about 2 bil people. Here is just a few effects of overpopulation.

Some more problems associated with or exacerbated by human overpopulation and over-consumption are:

The Yangtze River dolphin, Atlantic gray whale, West African black rhino, Merriam's elk, California grizzly bear, silver trout, blue pike and dusky seaside sparrow are all victims of human overpopulation.
Chris Hedges,
  • High infant and child mortality. High rates of infant mortality are associated with poverty. Rich countries with high population densities have low rates of infant mortality.
  • Intensive factory farming to support large populations. It results in human threats including the evolution and spread of antibiotic resistant bacteria diseases, excessive air and water pollution, and new viruses that infect humans.
  • Increased chance of the emergence of new epidemics and pandemics.For many environmental and social reasons, including overcrowded living conditions, malnutrition and inadequate, inaccessible, or non-existent health care, the poor are more likely to be exposed to infectious diseases.
  • Starvation, malnutrition or poor diet with ill health and diet-deficiency diseases (e.g. rickets). However, rich countries with high population densities do not have famine.
  • Poverty coupled with inflation in some regions and a resulting low level of capital formation. Poverty and inflation are aggravated by bad government and bad economic policies. Many countries with high population densities have eliminated absolute poverty and keep their inflation rates very low.
  • Low life expectancy in countries with fastest growing populations.
  • Unhygienic living conditions for many based upon water resource depletion, discharge of raw sewage and solid waste disposal. However, this problem can be reduced with the adoption of sewers. For example, after Karachi, Pakistan installed sewers, its infant mortality rate fell substantially.
  • Elevated crime rate due to drug cartels and increased theft by people stealing resources to survive.
  • Conflict over scarce resources and crowding, leading to increased levels of warfare.
  • Less personal freedom and more restrictive laws. Laws regulate and shape politics, economics, history and society and serve as a mediator of relations and interactions between people. The higher the population density, the more frequent such interactions become, and thus there develops a need for more laws and/or more restrictive laws to regulate these interactions and relations.

Right. The solution is for those countries to develop, not depopulate. Bangladesh with half the population just means half as many people would be living at the same level of poverty. Nature is brutal, and humans in a state of nature are equally brutal. Nothing is free for the taking. It's not like resources are present for free, and halving the population would double the amount of resources per remaining person. There are few accessible resources. The production of useful resources and the maintenance of the infrastructure are massive undertakings by tons of people. Having fewer people also means having fewer resources. Fewer scientists and engineers to come up with new ideas, fewer workers to make them happen, fewer educators to pass them on to the next generation, etc. And the relationship is not linear. The maintenance of a resource has a minimum number of people required. You can scale down the number of people in a copper mine at the expense of having less copper extracted, but only to a degree. You still need a minimum number to keep the operation going. So a smaller population means a larger percentage dedicated to keeping things operating, and fewer people available for other tasks. So having half as many people doesn't mean half as many resources. It's a lot less than that. I honestly can't think of a major advantage to having fewer people, except for pollution. But then again, medical outcomes would be far worse due to diminishing talent pool and resources, so it's doubtful the health outcomes for even that one aspect are positive.

And that's ignoring the fact that the immediate consequences would be the utter collapse of human civilization if the rapture happened suddenly. I am assuming that the remaining humans will eventually rebuild something more suitable to their circumstances. But it's a long hard road to a *****er world.
 
And that's ignoring the fact that the immediate consequences would be the utter collapse of human civilization if the rapture happened suddenly. I am assuming that the remaining humans will eventually rebuild something more suitable to their circumstances. But it's a long hard road to a *****er world.

Wondering what was the censored word. Anyway it is fun to speculate what would happen. What if only one god is real and he would rapture just christians... or just muslims...or just budhists. What would remaining people on earth would do? In hard core muslim countries all country pretty much would vanish. Imagine empty Saudi Arabia with all the oil and riches. Who would claim it? Would that lead to peaceful migration and establishment of new countries, infrastructures, etc, or to brutal war for resources? And how would all "unraptured" people would feel? Depressed that they did not followed right religion? Or hopeful that their time is coming as well at some point? Gosh, there is so much for imagination.
 
Wondering what was the censored word. Anyway it is fun to speculate what would happen. What if only one god is real and he would rapture just christians... or just muslims...or just budhists. What would remaining people on earth would do? In hard core muslim countries all country pretty much would vanish. Imagine empty Saudi Arabia with all the oil and riches. Who would claim it? Would that lead to peaceful migration and establishment of new countries, infrastructures, etc, or to brutal war for resources? And how would all "unraptured" people would feel? Depressed that they did not followed right religion? Or hopeful that their time is coming as well at some point? Gosh, there is so much for imagination.

Most hardcore religious fanatics aren't exactly super productive. So ya, that'd be a few hundred million we could do without. ;)
 
Lol at people who believe that the disappearance of large numbers of humans would be a positive for the humans who remain.

Have there been disappearances of large numbers of humans in the past? If so, was there any way to tell if the rest of human kind was better or worse off for it? (Maybe the holocaust or I think there was a massive tsunami somewhere a while back. Maybe an atomic bomb or something?)
 
Have there been disappearances of large numbers of humans in the past? If so, was there any way to tell if the rest of human kind was better or worse off for it? (Maybe the holocaust or I think there was a massive tsunami somewhere a while back. Maybe an atomic bomb or something?)
WorldPopulationGraph_yearPre7000BCto2025AD_metalAges_703x578.jpg

Even Black Death was hardly large enough to produce a dent on this scale. This image is pretty amazing. Good thing we're soon going to be capable of populating space.
 
I think Blondie explained the Rapture quite clearly.




Fab Five Freddy told me everybody's fly
DJ's spinning I said my, my
Flash is fast, Flash is cool
Francois sais pas, Flashe no deux
And you don't stop, sure shot
Go out to the parking lot
And you get in your car and you drive real far
And you drive all night and then you see a light
And it comes right down and lands on the ground
And out comes a man from Mars
And you try to run but he's got a gun
And he shoots you dead and he eats your head
And then you're in the man from Mars
You go out at night, eatin' cars
You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns too
Mercuries and Subaru
And you don't stop, you keep on eatin' cars
Then, when there's no more cars
You go out at night and eat up bars where the people meet
Face to face, dance cheek to cheek
One to one, man to man
Dance toe to toe
Don't move too slow, 'cause the man from Mars
Is through with cars, he's eatin' bars
Yeah, wall to wall, door to door, hall to hall
He's gonna eat 'em all
Rapture, be pure
Take a tour, through the sewer
Don't strain your brain, paint a train
You'll be singin' in the rain
I said don't stop, do punk rock

Well now you see what you wanna be
Just have your party on TV
'Cause the man from Mars won't eat up bars where the TV's on
And now he's gone back up to space
Where he won't have a hassle with the human race
And you hip-hop, and you don't stop
Just blast off, sure shot
'Cause the man from Mars stopped eatin' cars and eatin' bars
And now he only eats guitars, get up!
 
I certainly did not have Canada or USA in mind. Try Bangladesh for example. Based on statistics world currently is overpopulated by about 2 bil people. Here is just a few effects of overpopulation.

Some more problems associated with or exacerbated by human overpopulation and over-consumption are:

The Yangtze River dolphin, Atlantic gray whale, West African black rhino, Merriam's elk, California grizzly bear, silver trout, blue pike and dusky seaside sparrow are all victims of human overpopulation.
Chris Hedges,
  • High infant and child mortality. High rates of infant mortality are associated with poverty. Rich countries with high population densities have low rates of infant mortality.
  • Intensive factory farming to support large populations. It results in human threats including the evolution and spread of antibiotic resistant bacteria diseases, excessive air and water pollution, and new viruses that infect humans.
  • Increased chance of the emergence of new epidemics and pandemics.For many environmental and social reasons, including overcrowded living conditions, malnutrition and inadequate, inaccessible, or non-existent health care, the poor are more likely to be exposed to infectious diseases.
  • Starvation, malnutrition or poor diet with ill health and diet-deficiency diseases (e.g. rickets). However, rich countries with high population densities do not have famine.
  • Poverty coupled with inflation in some regions and a resulting low level of capital formation. Poverty and inflation are aggravated by bad government and bad economic policies. Many countries with high population densities have eliminated absolute poverty and keep their inflation rates very low.
  • Low life expectancy in countries with fastest growing populations.
  • Unhygienic living conditions for many based upon water resource depletion, discharge of raw sewage and solid waste disposal. However, this problem can be reduced with the adoption of sewers. For example, after Karachi, Pakistan installed sewers, its infant mortality rate fell substantially.
  • Elevated crime rate due to drug cartels and increased theft by people stealing resources to survive.
  • Conflict over scarce resources and crowding, leading to increased levels of warfare.
  • Less personal freedom and more restrictive laws. Laws regulate and shape politics, economics, history and society and serve as a mediator of relations and interactions between people. The higher the population density, the more frequent such interactions become, and thus there develops a need for more laws and/or more restrictive laws to regulate these interactions and relations.

1 population is only growing due to momentum. The global total fertility rate is very near the replacement rate and falling. This means that when the current genration of breeders are senior citizens we will likely hit peak population. (Unless we cure aging, that could get crazy)

2 most of your points can be solved through urbanization and liberalization of trade.

3 Some of your points are just wrong. Increased likelihood of warfare in particular. We are living through the most peaceful time in world history and the war that we do see generally isn't happening in countries with large populations. It happens in countries that don't have the strength to keep the peace afforded to states with large populations.
 
Yeah well not only did I go down a black run called “widow maker” today next weekend in the same magnificent state of Victoria I’ll be at one of innumerable great beaches. At the ocean. Don’t think utah can boast that eh.
I have ridden powder and surfed a kayak on a standing wave in a river on the same day and mountain bike the next day.
 
They don't have it down under.

We do but its super expensive and normally horrible quality, you're better off not buying ti here flying to say south america of europe and bingeing on it there for a couple of weeks, will likely be a hell of a lot cheaper.
 
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