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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

Seriously though, who would ever believe him that some leader from another country would ask him, of all people, to mediate something?

I wouldn’t want him mediating our 2019 Jazzfanz All-Time NBA Draft arguments.
 
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Zombie said:
Again, more bad faith arguments from the usual suspects. They can't grapple with the idea that Trump's policies are creating nightmarish conditions, so all they can do is point to Obama, who was less terrible but still pretty bad on immigration.

Somehow this makes what Trump is doing OK, or something.
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Or they are just trying to show the hypocrisy. The media could never seem to report on anything that might make the Obama administration look bad. To this day many people still think he was scandal free..
 
reignman40 said:
Or they are just trying to show the hypocrisy. The media could never seem to report on anything that might make the Obama administration look bad. To this day many people still think he was scandal free..
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People who followed progressive media knew about it. However, Obama never bragged about how much he was going to detain/discourage people, so the mainstream media did, for the most part, follow his lead. If Trump had not made stopping immigration a centerpiece of his campaign/policies, the activities at the border would be seeing a lot less play. Again, they are following where Trump leads.
 
reignman40 said:
Or they are just trying to show the hypocrisy. The media could never seem to report on anything that might make the Obama administration look bad. To this day many people still think he was scandal free..
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If you want to have a conversation about the shortfalls of the media that's fine, you won't get any argument from me that they should have done a better job of covering this five years ago. As I remember it, it was covered by some left wing outlets. The right was busy trying to portray Obama as weak on the border, and this stuff didn't fit the narrative. So there's plenty of blame to go around on that front.

That has **** all to do with what's happening now though, and in this case appears to be brought up only to obfuscate the issue and distract the conversation towards ground Trumpers feel more comfortable on.

As for Obama never getting criticized you must have missed the never ending coverage of "Benghazi," a scandal that almost feels quaint by today's standards.
 
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Zombie said:
More cruelty from the Trump administration.

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What annoys me is why the hell isnt there a national process for using the left over food from grocery stores. We could feed 10s of thousands regularly with it. Such a wasted opportunity. Smfh.

Also, wish we saw more restaurants, coffee shops, eateries... promote and push “pending” ideas. Basically I buy my meal and pay for another. The restaurant only cooks the one. But posts the other for homeless or down on their luck people to come in and receive.
 
Stoked said:
What annoys me is why the hell isnt there a national process for using the left over food from grocery stores. We could feed 10s of thousands regularly with it. Such a wasted opportunity. Smfh.

Also, wish we saw more restaurants, coffee shops, eateries... promote and push “pending” ideas. Basically I buy my meal and pay for another. The restaurant only cooks the one. But posts the other for homeless or down on their luck people to come in and receive.
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With the amount of food waste in this country we could feed tens of millions, it's just something of a logistical nightmare to put into place. I think the estimates are something like 30% of our food supply goes to waste each year, it's absurd. And it really is a tremendous wasted opportunity.

The Obama administration did create a program to try to combat this issue, and halve the amount of food wasted by 2030. It's been six years or so since the program launches and I haven't found much information about how successful its been.
 
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Zombie said:
With the amount of food waste in this country we could feed tens of millions, it's just something of a logistical nightmare to put into place. I think the estimates are something like 30% of our food supply goes to waste each year, it's absurd. And it really is a tremendous wasted opportunity.

The Obama administration did create a program to try to combat this issue, it's been six years or so, and I haven't found much information about how successful its been.
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Dude. A grocery store could have a single employee make a few calls and charities, food banks and churches would line up for that stuff.

Also, I’d love to see the gov get involved but nope. Our world breaking military needs a 3% increase in 2020!!!
 
Stoked said:
Dude. A grocery store could have a single employee make a few calls and charities, food banks and churches would line up for that stuff.

Also, I’d love to see the gov get involved but nope. Our world breaking military needs a 3% increase in 2020!!!
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Well, it's a bit more complicated than that. One issue is that of "food deserts" especially in urban and rural areas where communities just don't have true grocery stores anywhere near them, and are instead loaded up with convenience stores and Dollar Tree type stores. These are the kinds of communities that are most likely to be food insecure.
Getting the food where it's needed most is sometimes easier said than done. Not all communities have easy access to food banks or "soup kitchens" for various reasons as well.

Another issue is the amount of produce that never makes it to the grocery store to begin with because it doesn't fit a particular cosmetic standard. Not to mention the amount of food consumers throw away based on misunderstanding "sell by dates" or other factors (this is something I am way way too guilty of). I don't think the problem is insurmountable, but there are real challenges.
 
Zombie said:
Well, it's a bit more complicated than that. One issue is that of "food deserts" especially in urban and rural areas where communities just don't have true grocery stores anywhere near them, and are instead loaded up with convenience stores and Dollar Tree type stores. These are the kinds of communities that are most likely to be food insecure.
Getting the food where it's needed most is sometimes easier said than done. Not all communities have easy access to food banks or "soup kitchens" for various reasons as well.

Another issue is the amount of produce that never makes it to the grocery store to begin with because it doesn't fit a particular cosmetic standard. Not to mention the amount of food consumers throw away based on misunderstanding "sell by dates" or other factors (this is something I am way way too guilty of). I don't think the problem is insurmountable, but there are real challenges.
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You’re never going to get all the food. But it would be that easy to make a big difference.

Not to mention the PR coup.
 
Stoked said:
You’re never going to get all the food. But it would be that easy to make a big difference.

Not to mention the PR coup.
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Oh yeah for sure, and as I mentioned in my edited post, the Obama administration enacted a policy to encourage just that. There is still a long way to go in making sure it actually gets done. This article does into some detail about why more grocers aren't donating as much as they could be. Something as simple as adding food donation guidelines into the FDA's food code would go a very long way.

https://newfoodeconomy.org/harvard-food-safety-code-report-grocery-store-waste-donations/
 
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