Jazz vs. Trail Blazers (8:30 MT on TNT)

[kabenac]

Literally my #1 favorite candy. Got one in my stocking this year.
So ****ing good. You need to get you one


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Conley needs to take the Caramello jingle's advice and apply it to his hamstring.

 

[jom2003]

We should deal Cvonley for a 4

Nah, deal Ed/Clarkson for a 4. Conley is untradable, unless cavs GM somehow gets involved again before he is fired.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Nah, deal Ed/Clarkson for a 4. Conley is untradable, unless cavs GM somehow gets involved again before he is fired.

Conley definitely isn't untradeable, but the Jazz shouldn't trade him

 

[NAOS]

Conley definitely isn't untradeable, but the Jazz shouldn't trade him

Obviously it would depend of who we were getting in the deal.

 

[The Fresh Prince]

Still a trip that we have JC. Still a trip that people want to trade him.

 

[framer]

To go from Harkless/Aminu to bazemore/melo is a major downgrade no matter how you look at it dude

Cy's original point was that getting Collins and Nurkic back puts Portland back in contender status. I said, no, Nurkic doesn't do that for them and he went ballistic. In perfect Cy fashion he has morphed his argument to something else. Harkless/Aminu has nothing to do with it.

The Blazer's two best players are just as good, if not better than they were last year. Whiteside is filling in for Nurkic. The rest of the West just got a lot better, leaving the Blazers in the dust. Getting Nurkic, an average NBA starting center, back isn't going to be a league game changer.

 

[NAOS]

Cy's original point was that getting Collins and Nurkic back puts Portland back in contender status. I said, no, Nurkic doesn't do that for them and he went ballistic. In perfect Cy fashion he has morphed his argument to something else. Harkless/Aminu has nothing to do with it.

The Blazer's two best players are just as good, if not better than they were last year. Whiteside is filling in for Nurkic. The rest of the West just got a lot better, leaving the Blazers in the dust. Getting Nurkic, an average NBA starting center, back isn't going to be a league game changer.

Nurk is better than the average starting center. At his best, he’s considerably better.

 

[fishonjazz]

Clarkson was 4-12 and 1-6 from three with zero assists, zero rebounds and zero free throw attempts. 9 points on 12 shots. Team worst -14. 3 fouls. 20 minutes.

Reading the gamethread you would think he played great. Co workers act like he was awesome last night.

Burks would get crucified for having a statline like that. I don't think Burks ever played 20 minutes with zero rebounds and very very few times would he play that much and not get to the line or get an assist. Rarely did Burks ever take that many shot attempts in that few minutes yet was labeled a ball hog and blackhole. (Fwiw Burks has averaged 21.6 minutes for his career and 8.1 field goal attempts in those 21.6 minutes)

Burks and Clarkson are about the same age but Clarkson makes about 11 million more than AB.

Per 36 for their careers Burks averages more points, rebounds, assists, gets to the line more and turns it over less. Burks is also better three point shooter percentage wise (though on less attempts)

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[NAOS]

Clarkson was 4-12 and 1-6 from three with zero assists, zero rebounds and zero free throw attempts. 9 points on 12 shots. Team worst -14. 3 fouls. 20 minutes.

Reading the gamethread you would think he played great. Co workers act like he was awesome last night.

Burks would get crucified for having a statline like that. I don't think Burks ever played 20 minutes with zero rebounds and very very few times would he play that much and not get to the line or get an assist. Rarely did Burks ever take that many shot attempts in that few minutes yet was labeled a ball hog and blackhole. (Fwiw Burks has averaged 21.6 minutes for his career and 8.1 field goal attempts in those 21.6 minutes)

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Fans get irrational.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Clarkson was 4-12 and 1-6 from three with zero assists, zero rebounds and zero free throw attempts. 9 points on 12 shots. Team worst -14. 3 fouls. 20 minutes.

Reading the gamethread you would think he played great. Co workers act like he was awesome last night.

Burks would get crucified for having a statline like that. I don't think Burks ever played 20 minutes with zero rebounds and very very few times would he play that much and not get to the line or get an assist. Rarely did Burks ever take that many shot attempts in that few minutes yet was labeled a ball hog and blackhole. (Fwiw Burks has averaged 21.6 minutes for his career and 8.1 field goal attempts in those 21.6 minutes)

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All true, but the commentators said it best, he hasn’t practiced with the team yet, and has no idea what’s going on. At the same time his role is to shoot and score. We need to give at least two weeks to get integrated into the system.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

He also missed wide open shots within the offense. His day could’ve easily been much better

 

[fishonjazz]

All true, but the commentators said it best, he hasn’t practiced with the team yet, and has no idea what’s going on. At the same time his role is to shoot and score. We need to give at least two weeks to get integrated into the system.

Still seems like you might fall into a rebound in 20 minutes just on accident.

Anywho even looking at their entire careers per 36 Burks averages more points (on less shots), rebounds, assists, less turnovers and gets to the line more and shoots better from 3 for 11 million less.

I'm just saying, even after he gets used to the system and teammates if he plays like he has the rest of his career then anyone who wasn't happy with Burks isn't going to be happy with Clarkson.

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[Keefe]

Augustin/Aminu/Gordon for

Conley

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

He also missed wide open shots within the offense. His day could’ve easily been much better

He also at least appeared to give a damn, which is a change from the guy he replaced.

 

[str8line]

Clarkson was 4-12 and 1-6 from three with zero assists, zero rebounds and zero free throw attempts. 9 points on 12 shots. Team worst -14. 3 fouls. 20 minutes.

Reading the gamethread you would think he played great. Co workers act like he was awesome last night.

Burks would get crucified for having a statline like that. I don't think Burks ever played 20 minutes with zero rebounds and very very few times would he play that much and not get to the line or get an assist. Rarely did Burks ever take that many shot attempts in that few minutes yet was labeled a ball hog and blackhole. (Fwiw Burks has averaged 21.6 minutes for his career and 8.1 field goal attempts in those 21.6 minutes)

Burks and Clarkson are about the same age but Clarkson makes about 11 million more than AB.

Per 36 for their careers Burks averages more points, rebounds, assists, gets to the line more and turns it over less. Burks is also better three point shooter percentage wise (though on less attempts)

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He started well, which is why people were stoked. He went ice cold though. The effort was there though he played some active D.

The guy I'm really happy about is Mudiay. He has been good and could get better.

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[DasJazz]

Clarkson was 4-12 and 1-6 from three with zero assists, zero rebounds and zero free throw attempts. 9 points on 12 shots. Team worst -14. 3 fouls. 20 minutes.

Reading the gamethread you would think he played great. Co workers act like he was awesome last night.

Burks would get crucified for having a statline like that. I don't think Burks ever played 20 minutes with zero rebounds and very very few times would he play that much and not get to the line or get an assist. Rarely did Burks ever take that many shot attempts in that few minutes yet was labeled a ball hog and blackhole. (Fwiw Burks has averaged 21.6 minutes for his career and 8.1 field goal attempts in those 21.6 minutes)

Burks and Clarkson are about the same age but Clarkson makes about 11 million more than AB.

Per 36 for their careers Burks averages more points, rebounds, assists, gets to the line more and turns it over less. Burks is also better three point shooter percentage wise (though on less attempts)

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He played aggressively on both ends of the floor and to be fair, there were a few no call obvious fouls that would've sent him to the line.

Also, it was his first game and he was very much assuming the role of lost puppy on the court in regards to positioning and what to do in team sets.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Cy's original point was that getting Collins and Nurkic back puts Portland back in contender status. I said, no, Nurkic doesn't do that for them and he went ballistic. In perfect Cy fashion he has morphed his argument to something else. Harkless/Aminu has nothing to do with it.

The Blazer's two best players are just as good, if not better than they were last year. Whiteside is filling in for Nurkic. The rest of the West just got a lot better, leaving the Blazers in the dust. Getting Nurkic, an average NBA starting center, back isn't going to be a league game changer.

Nurkic is leagues better than CJ

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If you think Nurkic is average you don't watch him play. It's as simple as that. He's an AllStar caliber center who impacts the game at a high level and can hang individually with any of the elite centers

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And yes, Nurkic is a league game changer because they aren't a playoff team without him and they are with him

 

[Shad]

People going off Clarksons box score lol. He easily got hacked on 3 of those attempts and did not get a call.

Please watch the game before making a judgement off someones game. He also literally just came in with 0 coaching before hand.