Poll: Should the Lindsey/Vanik experiment come to an end?

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I have issues with how DL has drafted but I still think he drafts better than most GMs and he has the homeruns that you can't **** with.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I have issues with how DL has drafted but I still think he drafts better than most GMs and he has the homeruns that you can't **** with.

He's an average GM that's had some draft luck.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

There are very few true visionary GMs in the league so its not a huge knock when I call DL average. Guys that pioneer new ideas and theories and have the guts to go at them whole heartedly. The rest are copycats or follow another "model". You should good knowledge and things from other organizations, but if that is the basis for what you do then you never get out ahead of the competition.

The guy that I would have loved to see get a few more years is Hinkie… he was 100% right but was way too honest about what they were doing and called too much attention to it and the league intervened. He won every trade... some by a landslide... he missed on few picks but that's okay. I don't know what phase 2/3 of what he wanted to do was or if it was going to be successful, but getting top tier talent in the draft is the only real proven, reliable model that most franchises can use.

 

[NAOS]

The Conley acquisition is turning into the first thing someone should mention when discussing DL’s vision and tendencies. The deal in itself is a stinker, but when you frame it within the history of spending on George Hill and Ricky Rubio, it has all the force and effect of rebuild-killing inadequacies.

 

[416Klawzz]

Bojan is not a true starter but a role player or a 6th man at best, Mike sucks, Niang shouldn't be in the NBA. Bradley just isn't good enough for a back up center duty in the NBA. DL and Zanik just jerked off at the trade deadline because Davis their other mistake wasn't traded. These bone heads need to get fired. Gail please take action, I feel for Quin so keep him but fire DL and Zanik salvage your franchise now before it's too late!

 

[LogGrad98]

Bojan is not a true starter but a role player or a 6th man at best, Mike sucks, Niang shouldn't be in the NBA. Bradley just isn't good enough for a back up center duty in the NBA. DL and Zanik just jerked off at the trade deadline because Davis their other mistake wasn't traded. These bone heads need to get fired. Gail please take action, I feel for Quin so keep him but fire DL and Zanik salvage your franchise now before it's too late!

There is nothing to salvage. Ticket sales are strong. They are not paying higher cap penalties. The current product is keeping them fiscally strong. Their biggest concern is making sure we win enough to end the week to not make too big a dent in the bottom line. Money ball at it's best.

 

[416Klawzz]

There is nothing to salvage. Ticket sales are strong. They are not paying higher cap penalties. The current product is keeping them fiscally strong. Their biggest concern is making sure we win enough to end the week to not make too big a dent in the bottom line. Money ball at it's best.

I hear that, and its truthful but when is enough for settling for mediocrity ? Larry must be pissed God rest his soul.

 

[sahlensguy]

The Conley acquisition is turning into the first thing someone should mention when discussing DL’s vision and tendencies. The deal in itself is a stinker, but when you frame it within the history of spending on George Hill and Ricky Rubio, it has all the force and effect of rebuild-killing inadequacies.

It's hard to believe how badly Lindsey/Zanik/Quin missed on a guy who's been in the league for so long. It's as if they didn't have a good handle of who our team was and what it truly needed. Hard to excuse the whiff. They seemed to just throw crap on the wall to see what stuck. And they mortgaged the future to do it.

 

[NAOS]

The Conley acquisition is turning into the first thing someone should mention when discussing DL’s vision and tendencies. The deal in itself is a stinker, but when you frame it within the history of spending on George Hill and Ricky Rubio, it has all the force and effect of rebuild-killing inadequacies.

This is probably a thread-worthy question. Let me know if you want me to post it.

If the team’s play continues as it is with Conley, where will the Conley trade rank amongst the worst trades in the past DECADE?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

He's an average GM that's had some draft luck.

You can't call it luck when he targeted these dudes and made the trades to get them

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

You can't call it luck when he targeted these dudes and made the trades to get them

The Rudy pick is debatable... that was a transition year... there were rumors that Sloan influenced that pick... I'll just say this - If you give him Rudy as "his pick" then he also gets Trey Burke and prioritized getting Burke over Rudy because he used the 14 & 21 to do so, was lucky Denver didn't have anyone they felt they had to pick and gave us the deal.

Donovan was a great pick and trade... really his crown jewel imo. There was a little luck there in how it came together... he did the pre-work. I just always wonder what happens if Denver doesn't call back... does he pick up the phone and make a better offer to force the issue or is it the old "we were aggressive".

The Hood pick was also good.

Then there are the bad picks...Trey Lyles, Tony Bradley, Grayson (still tbd and not a lot of talent picked around that spot), Dante (not all his fault because of injuries).

So fine I will just call him average... no luck, but if DM turned out to be Avery Bradley and not what he is... then how would our views of his tenure change.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The Rudy pick is debatable... that was a transition year... there were rumors that Sloan influenced that pick... I'll just say this - If you give him Rudy as "his pick" then he also gets Trey Burke and prioritized getting Burke over Rudy because he used the 14 & 21 to do so, was lucky Denver didn't have anyone they felt they had to pick and gave us the deal.

Donovan was a great pick and trade... really his crown jewel imo. There was a little luck there in how it came together... he did the pre-work. I just always wonder what happens if Denver doesn't call back... does he pick up the phone and make a better offer to force the issue or is it the old "we were aggressive".

The Hood pick was also good.

Then there are the bad picks...Trey Lyles, Tony Bradley, Grayson (still tbd and not a lot of talent picked around that spot), Dante (not all his fault because of injuries).

So fine I will just call him average... no luck, but if DM turned out to be Avery Bradley and not what he is... then how would our views of his tenure change.

He's far above average