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Archie Moses said:
Can you quote me where I justified his charges? I don’t even know what they are nor who you're comparing them too. Saying he's a POS is not justification.
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The fact is, political manipulators regularly set up false flag groups on both sides of an issue. I think the Proud Boys are just that, and most other obnoxious right-wing fakirs.Agreed. You think lots of crazy ****. Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using JazzFanz mobile app
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By saying "Have you seen his videos by chance? He's a terrorist. **** that guy.". Yes, that's justifying the harsher charges against him.
 
One Brow said:
You responded directly to:

Protestors storm capital

The fact is, political manipulators regularly set up false flag groups on both sides of an issue. I think the Proud Boys are just that, and most other obnoxious right-wing fakirs.Agreed. You think lots of crazy ****. Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using JazzFanz mobile app
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By saying "Have you seen his videos by chance? He's a terrorist. **** that guy.". Yes, that's justifying the harsher charges against him.
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No, no it's not.

What charges did he get that others who did what he did and have a history like his get that's less than his?
 
One Brow said:
Sullivan has no criminal convictions.
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"Previously, Sullivan was arrested by the Provo City Police Department on July 9 under the suspicion of third-degree felony rioting, class A misdemeanor criminal mischief and class B misdemeanor threat of violence. Charges were filed on July 13, and the case is currently pending."

Well, he's about to have a few of them and probably become a felon.

Dude wanted to burn the Capitol and SLC down. Do you feel you have to be this guy's apologist or something?
 
Archie Moses said:
"Previously, Sullivan was arrested by the Provo City Police Department on July 9 under the suspicion of third-degree felony rioting, class A misdemeanor criminal mischief and class B misdemeanor threat of violence. Charges were filed on July 13, and the case is currently pending."

Well, he's about to have a few of them and probably become a felon.

Dude wanted to burn the Capitol and SLC down. Do you feel you have to be this guy's apologist or something?
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This guy? No. I want him treated just like any other criminal.

You seem to be fine with him being treated worse than other criminals.
 
Red said:
This was recorded at a pro-Trump protest in November. I’m not familiar with the musician, but, as he says “this goes beyond Trump”. And I don’t think the point of view he expresses is going away anytime soon. (BTW, he has become one of those arrested for the Jan. 6th insurrection). But I think he did a decent job of describing a belief that preceded Trump, and that will survive Trump. I think it’s a belief system that babe would be very comfortable with. I am certain that there were many beliefs floating around within the Jan. 6th mob. Not a monolithic block of thought, or people, though the cult of Trump, and the cult of QAnon dominated. But I do believe we will have an insurgency on our hands, because what happened is likely seen as a success to guys like this. And, really, I think Snyder is just warning us that a more competent populist may be our future. One reason why the instigators in Congress and the mob must be held to account, and pay a heavy price.

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Last night a couple older folks at my work, sitting at different tables than each other, had a conversation loud enough for anyone in the break room to hear. I'll refer to them as Q Female "QF" and T Male "TM"...

QF: "I just feel bad for the children." Seeming to refer to the children being abducted, sexually assaulted and killed by liberals, AKA the QAnon conspiracy.
TM: "Yeah, I do too" Said somberly
QF: "We need to have a revolution"
TM: "Oh, I think there is gonna be 'unrest'"

They continued to gripe along those lines but I turned my audio book up and tried to stop listening.
 
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Gameface said:
Last night a couple older folks at my work, sitting at different tables than each other, had a conversation loud enough for anyone in the break room to hear. I'll refer to them as Q Female "QF" and T Male "TM"...

QF: "I just feel bad for the children." Seeming to refer to the children being abducted, sexually assaulted and killed by liberals, AKA the QAnon conspiracy.
TM: "Yeah, I do too" Said somberly
QF: "We need to have a revolution"
TM: "Oh, I think there is gonna be 'unrest'"

They continued to gripe along those lines but I turned my audio book up and tried to stop listening.
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A while back l listened to a podcast with the creator of 8chan Fred Brennan. At the time 8chan was the place for these "Q drops"

Based on his knowledge of how the board operated, Brennan said the "Q" login was controlled and Q posts were disseminated by the owner of the board, a guy named Jim Watkins.

And how did Watkins get his start on the internet - he ran "barely legal" Asian porn sites out of The Philippines in the 90s.

I swear the entire Trump movement is one giant projection.
 
Gameface said:
Last night a couple older folks at my work, sitting at different tables than each other, had a conversation loud enough for anyone in the break room to hear. I'll refer to them as Q Female "QF" and T Male "TM"...

QF: "I just feel bad for the children." Seeming to refer to the children being abducted, sexually assaulted and killed by liberals, AKA the QAnon conspiracy.
TM: "Yeah, I do too" Said somberly
QF: "We need to have a revolution"
TM: "Oh, I think there is gonna be 'unrest'"

They continued to gripe along those lines but I turned my audio book up and tried to stop listening.
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Did the females name start with a K?

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Gameface said:
Last night a couple older folks at my work, sitting at different tables than each other, had a conversation loud enough for anyone in the break room to hear. I'll refer to them as Q Female "QF" and T Male "TM"...

QF: "I just feel bad for the children." Seeming to refer to the children being abducted, sexually assaulted and killed by liberals, AKA the QAnon conspiracy.
TM: "Yeah, I do too" Said somberly
QF: "We need to have a revolution"
TM: "Oh, I think there is gonna be 'unrest'"

They continued to gripe along those lines but I turned my audio book up and tried to stop listening.
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This whole eruption of irrational beliefs keeps telling me this is why we’re a flawed species. Animals don’t get themselves in trouble by thinking too much. This seems like a mental illness, infecting lots of people, like a conspiracy pandemic.
 
candrew said:
I've gone back and forth on this and I do think you're right, at least in the short term, it seems more than likely we're going to see some horrible stuff in the next few months - but I question "Trumpism" as a long term movement simply because we're 10+ years in since the "birther movement" and where are the other super popular "Trumps?" Donald Trump is an amalgamation of so many different things to many different people that it will be impossible to mass produce him like evangelicals or Tea Party pukes.

I have no reason to be over optimistic, these people aren't just going to go away - but most cults die when they cut the head off the snake.
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The narrative seems like it would not have momentum for too long if it’s based on fundamental falsehoods. It has to have that going against it in the long run. But it points to a real problem in showing how relatively easy it is to create a cult that can instill “insane” movements into the political arena. It’s been damaging. I guess it remains to be seen how damaging.
 
Gameface said:
Last night a couple older folks at my work, sitting at different tables than each other, had a conversation loud enough for anyone in the break room to hear. I'll refer to them as Q Female "QF" and T Male "TM"...

QF: "I just feel bad for the children." Seeming to refer to the children being abducted, sexually assaulted and killed by liberals, AKA the QAnon conspiracy.
TM: "Yeah, I do too" Said somberly
QF: "We need to have a revolution"
TM: "Oh, I think there is gonna be 'unrest'"

They continued to gripe along those lines but I turned my audio book up and tried to stop listening.
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Thing is, I listen to this talk and I want to tell them that they don't want a revolution. I know they think they have all the guns. They don't. They are also all 50+ years old (I know not "all" of them are, but whatever). This is not a fight they can win.

A Trump revolution would be more deadly to old folks than the corona virus.
 
One Brow said:
This guy? No. I want him treated just like any other criminal.

You seem to be fine with him being treated worse than other criminals.
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I've asked you for a specific example. You've yet to provide one.

When did I say I wanted him treated worse?

I swear this is the common thing of this thread. Put words in other's mouths to push your narrative that the whole world is bad.

Pathetic.

Sullivan has been released.
"Sullivan was charged Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., with being on restricted property, civil disorder and violent entry or disorderly conduct. The case will be tried in Washington."

So again, what am I missing? He's being charged with this because he's black or these charges are more than the white rioters?
 
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Gameface said:
I don't understand why you feel the need to defend against these statements so much.
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Sure, I don't need to respond.

I don't understand why he feels the need to call me a racist, alt right while responding to others posters cause he has me on ignore. It's annoying af.
 
This is great....Every Republican, and every member of the Cult of Trump, should listen. Although it will still likely go in one ear, through a brainwashed mind, and out the other. But, the perfect rant!

 
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